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Do we get a vote?

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A2B
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Re: Do we get a vote?

Post by A2B »

TopperGas wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 18:50
I can't see you can blame the CWU when they've been trying to agree some kind of deal for 18 months, and there's no way RM would agree to a revision which meant them having to employ more staff if the duties were reduced in size.
But aren't RM employing more people and increasing the hours of 1000s of current employees?

If this is the best they can come up with after 18 months then yes I think at the very least the CWU are partially to blame.
Perseus
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Re: Do we get a vote?

Post by Perseus »

18 months on and they come up with the same thing under a different name with a Hail Mary resourcing plan to 'help out'.
Duties may/may not have to reduce in size, depending on what delivery span/attendance pattern becomes based on 2 days mail.
No compulsory redundancies, plenty of staff would be willing to take the VR/EVR should the office create surplus staff after deployment - which is clearly RM's end game.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Do we get a vote?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Perseus wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 18:31
ted_e_bear wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 17:45
SMS1969 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 17:12
I’ll be voting early and voting no. How can we vote for anything that makes our job worse. They can fook right off. :wave
Same, and I'm definitely not voting for something that allocates less work to part of the office with a view to them being sent to help, f***ing joke they're already the easiest duties we've got why not get everyone in the same boat with a proper revision for a change instead of the last few lazy botched tweaks where the easiest duties remained easy and the longer ones got longer.
The worst thing is, the CWU have wasted so much time on this - almost 18 months - that they could have had a proper warts and all type of revision in every office in the land in that time.
The not-so-popular-truth in all of this is that with properly sized, fair duties the ODM would stand a good chance of working. A duty with 2 days worth of 2C mail does not, under any circumstances take 2 x the time to deliver. That was extremely poorly communicated. Call rate typically went up about 20%. Plan delivery times on 2 days average mail, make Mondays and Tuesdays 30-40 minutes longer than rest of week to account for the 3 days mail. Some offices would have to make their delivery time a bit longer, some probably stay around the same, some would be shorter than they are to accommodate the extra letters. Instead they are just hoping that we all sort this out locally. Not a chance.
From what I've heard it'll be Fridays and Mondays which will become busier in DOs. Anything 2C that would currently hit the time limit on a Friday night for Saturday delivery will instead be released on the Thursday night for Friday delivery.
Rommagic
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Re: Do we get a vote?

Post by Rommagic »

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RuralVan
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Re: Do we get a vote?

Post by RuralVan »

Rurals and Singletons will help town duties indoors/outdoors.

No plan yet so we are being asked to vote on a plan that hasn't been devised yet.

Town duties...when you are struggling rural and Singletons will help out, but there is no plan devised yet as to how the plan might be devised or might work out..

Hmmm
ted_e_bear
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Re: Do we get a vote?

Post by ted_e_bear »

RuralVan wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 21:26
Rurals and Singletons will help town duties indoors/outdoors.

No plan yet so we are being asked to vote on a plan that hasn't been devised yet.

Town duties...when you are struggling rural and Singletons will help out, but there is no plan devised yet as to how the plan might be devised or might work out..

Hmmm
I know, it's ridiculous, supposedly if it becomes apparent that help is required and someone has capacity then it's supposed to permanently become part of their duty, absolutely piss poor approach why can't we just do something properly for a change.