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CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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funkflex55
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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Any 'plan' that relies on someone having time to help isn't really a plan is it, it's a hope and that's no way to run a business.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 08:51
Any 'plan' that relies on someone having time to help isn't really a plan is it, it's a hope and that's no way to run a business.
It's a Hail Mary, sponsored by the CWU.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 08:51
Any 'plan' that relies on someone having time to help isn't really a plan is it, it's a hope and that's no way to run a business.
It's phrased a bit wishy washy IMHO. Although I can't see it says 'help' specifically the words 'support' and 'share, subject to workload' leave the whole thing open to abuse - driving at 30 mph instead of 40 mph, slowing indoor prep etc and then not having time to 'support' or 'share the workload'.

However the CWU FAQ's do say:
Units must also complete mandatory operational requirements prior to any deployment, which must be signed off jointly by a ROD and Divisional Rep. There will also be continuous reviews to fix problems when they arise (informed by local decision making) and a mandatory formal review no later than 12 weeks after deployment and important daily/weekly reviews in place to address issues as they occur. No surplus of staff will be declared unless your unit is achieving all quality targets and clearing workload daily. If the office still cannot clear its daily workload, the agreement allows for additional solutions including extra hours and duties to be put in and flexibility around the delivery model.
So it'll be all fine and dandy.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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yellowbelly wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 10:11
funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 08:51
Any 'plan' that relies on someone having time to help isn't really a plan is it, it's a hope and that's no way to run a business.
It's phrased a bit wishy washy IMHO. Although I can't see it says 'help' specifically the words 'support' and 'share, subject to workload' leave the whole thing open to abuse - driving at 30 mph instead of 40 mph, slowing indoor prep etc and then not having time to 'support' or 'share the workload'.

However the CWU FAQ's do say:
Units must also complete mandatory operational requirements prior to any deployment, which must be signed off jointly by a ROD and Divisional Rep. There will also be continuous reviews to fix problems when they arise (informed by local decision making) and a mandatory formal review no later than 12 weeks after deployment and important daily/weekly reviews in place to address issues as they occur. No surplus of staff will be declared unless your unit is achieving all quality targets and clearing workload daily. If the office still cannot clear its daily workload, the agreement allows for additional solutions including extra hours and duties to be put in and flexibility around the delivery model.
So it'll be all fine and dandy.
If RM think too many staff are taking the piss, they might see it as a reason to install dash cams in all vans so they can see what the traffic conditions were like.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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No surplus of staff will be declared unless your unit is achieving all quality targets and clearing workload daily.

Gee, what a great incentive.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 08:51
Any 'plan' that relies on someone having time to help isn't really a plan is it, it's a hope and that's no way to run a business.
It probably also means the weaker newer postie's will be bullied into taking more extra work and the old timers just left to plod on as normal as they know how to play the system? I bet managers can't believe their luck the CWU have agreed to such a way of working, as it must be music to their ears.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 10:59
yellowbelly wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 10:11
funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 08:51
Any 'plan' that relies on someone having time to help isn't really a plan is it, it's a hope and that's no way to run a business.
It's phrased a bit wishy washy IMHO. Although I can't see it says 'help' specifically the words 'support' and 'share, subject to workload' leave the whole thing open to abuse - driving at 30 mph instead of 40 mph, slowing indoor prep etc and then not having time to 'support' or 'share the workload'.

However the CWU FAQ's do say:
Units must also complete mandatory operational requirements prior to any deployment, which must be signed off jointly by a ROD and Divisional Rep. There will also be continuous reviews to fix problems when they arise (informed by local decision making) and a mandatory formal review no later than 12 weeks after deployment and important daily/weekly reviews in place to address issues as they occur. No surplus of staff will be declared unless your unit is achieving all quality targets and clearing workload daily. If the office still cannot clear its daily workload, the agreement allows for additional solutions including extra hours and duties to be put in and flexibility around the delivery model.
So it'll be all fine and dandy.
If RM think too many staff are taking the piss, they might see it as a reason to install dash cams in all vans so they can see what the traffic conditions were like.
They are fitting dash cams in every van under 9 years old already anything older than that would probably have a dash cam worth more than the van!!

Although what manager is going to have the time to download and view hours of dash cam footage?
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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TopperGas wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 14:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 10:59
yellowbelly wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 10:11
funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 08:51
Any 'plan' that relies on someone having time to help isn't really a plan is it, it's a hope and that's no way to run a business.
It's phrased a bit wishy washy IMHO. Although I can't see it says 'help' specifically the words 'support' and 'share, subject to workload' leave the whole thing open to abuse - driving at 30 mph instead of 40 mph, slowing indoor prep etc and then not having time to 'support' or 'share the workload'.

However the CWU FAQ's do say:
Units must also complete mandatory operational requirements prior to any deployment, which must be signed off jointly by a ROD and Divisional Rep. There will also be continuous reviews to fix problems when they arise (informed by local decision making) and a mandatory formal review no later than 12 weeks after deployment and important daily/weekly reviews in place to address issues as they occur. No surplus of staff will be declared unless your unit is achieving all quality targets and clearing workload daily. If the office still cannot clear its daily workload, the agreement allows for additional solutions including extra hours and duties to be put in and flexibility around the delivery model.
So it'll be all fine and dandy.
If RM think too many staff are taking the piss, they might see it as a reason to install dash cams in all vans so they can see what the traffic conditions were like.
They are fitting dash cams in every van under 9 years old already anything older than that would probably have a dash cam worth more than the van!!

Although what manager is going to have the time to download and view hours of dash cam footage?
They'll probably use the dashcam footage, combined with PDA actuals and have AI analyse the data.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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Reading the above about surplus staff raises more concerns. Of course units will be ok whilst there's surplus staff mopping up the daily fails. Obviously they would as it's current level staff doing the work of 3 :shock: .

Anyway, once it's a great success and then the staff are released that's when it goes to s**t. What's the plan then?
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 15:32
Reading the above about surplus staff raises more concerns. Of course units will be ok whilst there's surplus staff mopping up the daily fails. Obviously they would as it's current level staff doing the work of 3 :shock: .

Anyway, once it's a great success and then the staff are released that's when it goes to s**t. What's the plan then?
More likely the surplus staff will be compulsorily transferred to offices that are short on staff.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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2 in 5 sat off makes 20 a year?
How they break down the other days off a year we get?, if a person has 6 weeks leave.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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A CDV pairing will deliver 50% 1C mail and parcels and 50% all mail Monday-Friday, rotating fairly between the two postal workers. A third postal worker will cover a single duty along the same pattern.
I don't understand this...

A pairing will only have to deliver 50% of their (3?) duties? So what happens to the other 50% of 1st Class mail and parcels?
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 10:59


If RM think too many staff are taking the piss, they might see it as a reason to install dash cams in all vans so they can see what the traffic conditions were like.
Dashboard cameras are coming to all vans over the next couple of years anyway
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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norris9 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 18:14
A CDV pairing will deliver 50% 1C mail and parcels and 50% all mail Monday-Friday, rotating fairly between the two postal workers. A third postal worker will cover a single duty along the same pattern.
I don't understand this...

A pairing will only have to deliver 50% of their (3?) duties? So what happens to the other 50% of 1st Class mail and parcels?
Those 3 people have 4 duties, not 3.

You won't have a duty as we know it now. There will be four duties that you do with two other people each day.
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Re: CWU/RM Agreement 2026 FAQ's

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 15:46
funkflex55 wrote:
26 Apr 2026, 15:32
Reading the above about surplus staff raises more concerns. Of course units will be ok whilst there's surplus staff mopping up the daily fails. Obviously they would as it's current level staff doing the work of 3 :shock: .

Anyway, once it's a great success and then the staff are released that's when it goes to s**t. What's the plan then?
More likely the surplus staff will be compulsorily transferred to offices that are short on staff.
Little chance of many offices having surplus staff as that would mean they are clearing every day and that virtually no staff leave for a year or so after DM26 is introduced.