HCT duties

[ted_e_bear]

Reading through the various LTBs regarding the new changes I spotted this, does this mean hct duties will be removed and converted to van delivery ?

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[iHateD2Ds]

It does read that way.
I thought the whole idea of HCT duties is that they are more suited for Town Centres because of parking and traffic flow issues.
Seems to me management haven’t a clue what they are doing!

[yellowbelly]

That's not what they've said in one of the other briefings:

Town routes
• DM26 will involve three posties covering four routes
each day. The four routes will alternate between high
call rate and low call rate (Mon-Fri).
• Two colleagues will van share and the other will work
alone in a van or HCT.

[clashcityrocker]

Maybe it will be one of those things that is left to local decisions.

But the cost of a van versus the cost of 2 HCTs?
And I fail to see how anyone could cover 2 duties with 1st class letters and parcels with a HCT?

[Chelseablue]

The whole thing is all over the place. Walkers on a saturday, dont know. When ppl go off sick , ( and they will even more) the whole 3/4 duties collapse then, hcts ?, happen to get someone whos really lazy on the 3/4. Rurals /single duties been told they will do extra too ( part of another duty), door to doors issues , exhaustion issues, not too mention more stress and work with this awful way of working. Should only be delivery sector getting a vote Big no

[Perseus]

Maybe it will be one of those things that is left to local decisions.

But the cost of a van versus the cost of 2 HCTs?
And I fail to see how anyone could cover 2 duties with 1st class letters and parcels with a HCT?

There’s going to be plenty of spare vans once offices are made to go 3 people doing 4 walks, especially when single vans are repurposed for 2 in a van.

[twoloops]

Our HTC duties are allowed to stay out for up to one hours over time, but they have to log out on the PDA on the last letter, the 20 push back to the office will not be paid.

[pm55]

Our HTC duties are allowed to stay out for up to one hours over time, but they have to log out on the PDA on the last letter, the 20 push back to the office will not be paid.

What? People agree to this? Is that a form of ghost OT where they actually do less than an hours work or are people working for free?

[scotchy1962]

Our HTC duties are allowed to stay out for up to one hours over time, but they have to log out on the PDA on the last letter, the 20 push back to the office will not be paid.

Hahaha never ceases to amaze me what some people will agree to for a few sheckles more.
Anyone sensible would have said i will sign out when i return to the office as legally i am still working for RM until i return to the office and if something happens while i am pushing the HCT back you are liable.

[TopperGas]

Our HTC duties are allowed to stay out for up to one hours over time, but they have to log out on the PDA on the last letter, the 20 push back to the office will not be paid.

Managers will just try anything on to try and save a few £'s, I bet even they were surprised when posties agreed to the suggestion!!

[Perseus]

Maybe it will be one of those things that is left to local decisions.

But the cost of a van versus the cost of 2 HCTs?
And I fail to see how anyone could cover 2 duties with 1st class letters and parcels with a HCT?

I think I see what you are saying now, sorry.

I've been looking at the Appendix and it states there should be an absolute maximum of 1 non driving staff in every 4 duties that are grouped together. Makes sense. Bob, Steve and Janet covering duties A B C and D, let's say Steve doesn't drive. Saturday comes round and it's Bob's day off, leaving Steve and Janet to do parcels and 1C letters on A and B, plus C and D. How is Steve going to do packets and 1C letters for 2 of those from an HCT?

The obvious answer is to pair both people together and do A B C and D, but there is no way that is do-able, unless they maybe do A B and C only. Then who does D?

[Whippy]

Maybe it will be one of those things that is left to local decisions.

But the cost of a van versus the cost of 2 HCTs?
And I fail to see how anyone could cover 2 duties with 1st class letters and parcels with a HCT?

I think I see what you are saying now, sorry.

I've been looking at the Appendix and it states there should be an absolute maximum of 1 non driving staff in every 4 duties that are grouped together. Makes sense. Bob, Steve and Janet covering duties A B C and D, let's say Steve doesn't drive. Saturday comes round and it's Bob's day off, leaving Steve and Janet to do parcels and 1C letters on A and B, plus C and D. How is Steve going to do packets and 1C letters for 2 of those from an HCT?

The obvious answer is to pair both people together and do A B C and D, but there is no way that is do-able, unless they maybe do A B and C only. Then who does D?

Can’t wait to see the managers face when Janet + Bob both phone in sick

[TopperGas]

Maybe it will be one of those things that is left to local decisions.

But the cost of a van versus the cost of 2 HCTs?
And I fail to see how anyone could cover 2 duties with 1st class letters and parcels with a HCT?

I think I see what you are saying now, sorry.

I've been looking at the Appendix and it states there should be an absolute maximum of 1 non driving staff in every 4 duties that are grouped together. Makes sense. Bob, Steve and Janet covering duties A B C and D, let's say Steve doesn't drive. Saturday comes round and it's Bob's day off, leaving Steve and Janet to do parcels and 1C letters on A and B, plus C and D. How is Steve going to do packets and 1C letters for 2 of those from an HCT?

The obvious answer is to pair both people together and do A B C and D, but there is no way that is do-able, unless they maybe do A B and C only. Then who does D?

Isn't doing 1c and parcels across 2 duties going to be the norm anyway? No doubt if they say they are struggling they'll be told to just deliver the parcels and leave the 1c?

The non driver will be in the DO either prepping 2c &/or D2D's, unless they are going to be sent out to deliver 1c & packets which is a possibility with RM.

[TooManyLoops]

Is this where the new Paxter MEVs would be used?

[ted_e_bear]

Our HTC duties are allowed to stay out for up to one hours over time, but they have to log out on the PDA on the last letter, the 20 push back to the office will not be paid.

What so they can spend an extra hour delivering but effectively only get paid for about 30 minutes after walking back then unloading, sorting out undelivered parcels etc before finally actually finishing work