Equalisation

[Chelseablue]

Tbh im being positive when i say the jobs fkd now. Lol sad days

[Playmail]

Surprised they didn't do away with paid breaks

[tramssirhc]

The unions version of equalisation is giving a 1.75% on top of the 3%, which equates to about 23p an hour. And to cut the overtime rate which is worth about £3.25 an hour. They should be ashamed of themselves

You do realise it's RM who've made the offer not the CWU, if this is all RM are prepared to offer there's little the CWU can do but accept it, as there's no way legacy workers are going to strike for equalisation for new contract workers.

It seems pretty clear now RM have no real intention to equalise contracts, if they were they would have set out a timetable when they hope to achieve it.

Martin Walsh agreed it. Its a joint agreement.

[geordieboy123]

new contracts will be 37 hours not 40..payrise of 3%..4.75% for new starters.

Does this mean that current 40 hr people will drop to 37?

[SMS1969]

new contracts will be 37 hours not 40..payrise of 3%..4.75% for new starters.

Does this mean that current 40 hr people will drop to 37?

Only if they want to.

[A2B]

new contracts will be 37 hours not 40..payrise of 3%..4.75% for new starters.

Does this mean that current 40 hr people will drop to 37?

Only if they want to.

Really? The way I read it was 40hrs people would go to 37hrs but stay on 40hrs pay therefore increasing their hourly rate but not taking home any extra money.

I could be wrong obviously

[Scointer]

new contracts will be 37 hours not 40..payrise of 3%..4.75% for new starters.

Does this mean that current 40 hr people will drop to 37?

Only if they want to.

Really? The way I read it was 40hrs people would go to 37hrs but stay on 40hrs pay therefore increasing their hourly rate but not taking home any extra money.

I could be wrong obviously

That was the initial idea back in September but has bit the dust like every other promise on equalisation. Now you will be on £13:68 an hour (outside London) times how many hours you work. Therefore you can stay on 40 hours a week and get paid 40 x £13.68 or drop to 37 hours and get 37 x £13.68 a week. Your choice. New starters from now on will only have the option of 37 hours a week max (obviously without O/T).

“No further new entrants will be employed on 40-hour full time contracts and the standard
full-time contract going forward will be 37 hours per week, effective 1st June 2026.
• Existing new entrants with contracted weekly hours of more than 37 hours will retain a
fulltime equivalent working week that matches their existing contracted hours (e.g. 38, 39,
or 40 hours) for the purposes of pensionable pay, overtime and allowances. The circa
3,000 employees in this category will be ringfenced for the time being and future options
will be considered and agreed, always without forcing any employee to a loss of pay per
week on one hand, and always giving to the employee the choice to reduce the working
hours to 37 hours on a voluntary basis on the other hand.“

[A2B]

That's cleared that up then

[Mr Rush]

how long before the new contracts start to get to close to equaling the amount of people on old contracts.

The number of staff on the new contracts is like a leaking bucket: they may have taken on 40,000 since December 2022 but at any given time you'll only find 20,000 tops on the payroll. The only way they'll outnumber 'legacy' staff is if the latter quit en masse, which in this confused analogy would be the bottom falling out of the world rather than the bucket.

[Whippy]

Not only are new entrants losing the 1.25x overtime rate, but the difference between the two contracts has barely changed because nothing has been mentioned about delivery supplement or paid breaks. In what world does equalisation mean a £108 difference a week when you compare hour for hour worked doing the same job?

Lets have a look at the numbers based on a 37 hour week:

Standard contract including delivery supplement (london weighting in brackets)

2025: £556 (£660) x 52 = £28,937 (£34,319) - 180 minutes of paid breaks per week
2026: £573 (680) x 52 = £29,796 (£35,338) - 180 minutes of paid breaks per week

New inferior contract

2025: £483 (£573) x 52 = £25,127 (£29,801) – NO PAID BREAKS
2026: £506 (£600) x 52 = £26,321 (£31,217) – NO PAID BREAKS

Remember, with 3 hours of paid breaks per week, the standard contract works 34 hours out of 37, the inferior contract works 37. So lets see the difference in hourly rate and actual hours worked.

Standard contract hourly over 34 hours worked

2025: £16.35/h
2026: £16.84/h

New inferior contract hourly over 37 hours worked

2025: 13.06/h
2026: 13.68/h

Difference

2025: £3.29/h
2026: £3.16/h

Hour to hour comparison

34 hours worked on the inferior contract is £465 after the agreement, £108 less than the standard contract. Over a year this amounts to £5616 difference in pay if you compare hour to hour worked. This is the real difference between the contracts and why there is no mention of delivery supplement and paid breaks, both of these things hide the fact that new contracts are still making 20% less than the standard contract.

Equalization: the action or process of making things the same in quantity, size, or degree throughout a place or group.

Thanks for breaking it down, all the other fluff in the agreement means nothing it’s all about the pounds and pence

[Valentina@1]

The CWU top brass actually going to dress this up as a win again?

[Hitcher]

New starters in our office effectively get paid breaks as their hours don't have the extra break time added but they do take them.

[Smoothbackground]

New starters in our office effectively get paid breaks as their hours don't have the extra break time added but they do take them.

Your office seems decent. Mine also does the same. But other offices in my region insist on adding 3hrs 40mins to the weekly attendance, ie, daily attendance of 8hrs 40mins for those of us on 40-hr NDG contracts, so it does need resolving and unifying across the board. Paid breaks would have been a far superior first step to equalisation imho.

[Agencyoap]

So a newbie on 40hr week doing 40hrs OT a month will be …..
£2300 a year worse off

But a legacy on 37hw doing 40 hrs OT a month will be 3% better off

How the actual fcuk is this equalisation
The gap has got even bigger !!

[Joe2783]

So a newbie on 40hr week doing 40hrs OT a month will be …..
£2300 a year worse off

But a legacy on 37hw doing 40 hrs OT a month will be 3% better off

How the actual fcuk is this equalisation
The gap has got even bigger !!

Exactly this…
How can they remove the overtime rate but not equalise the hourly rate, it’s made the gap even bigger, and people getting paid less than before the agreement