LTB 019/26 – ROYAL MAIL UPDATE – Overview of the current situation with EP/RMG

[chickenwittle]

The fact that this statement acknowledges that the union realises that executive action is a possibility points towards it probably happening over the next few weeks.
Get ready everyone, Ward and Walsh could very well be about to March us off a cliff once again. That’s if they could get us to back them for strike action this time round. They certainly won’t have my backing.

Would you rather the CWU bend over and accept everything RM propose ? If they did you’d be the first to complain about that as well.

Nah I would rather they just be more upfront and honest instead of spending the last year bigging up a foreign Billionaire as some sort of saviour, it’s absolute fantasy land stuff we have seen from Ward over the last 4 years but it’s really ramped up since Kretinsky bought the company. A proper union would have campaigned against the sale to him and fought for re-nationalisation. He’s gunna strip this business to the bone over the next decade and Ward will have his feet up collecting his fat pension.

How do you stop a business man buying Royal Mail ? You people are not serious, the best they could ever have done is to get him to commit to certain conditions, which they did . The hold up now is actually holding him to account to make sure he honours it .There is no doubt he will slim line the business going forward, he’s here to make a profit, not to make our lives easier. What do you think Thompson and co were doing previously.

[toonshola]

The fact that this statement acknowledges that the union realises that executive action is a possibility points towards it probably happening over the next few weeks.
Get ready everyone, Ward and Walsh could very well be about to March us off a cliff once again. That’s if they could get us to back them for strike action this time round. They certainly won’t have my backing.

Would you rather the CWU bend over and accept everything RM propose ? If they did you’d be the first to complain about that as well.

Nah I would rather they just be more upfront and honest instead of spending the last year bigging up a foreign Billionaire as some sort of saviour, it’s absolute fantasy land stuff we have seen from Ward over the last 4 years but it’s really ramped up since Kretinsky bought the company. A proper union would have campaigned against the sale to him and fought for re-nationalisation. He’s gunna strip this business to the bone over the next decade and Ward will have his feet up collecting his fat pension.

How do you stop a business man buying Royal Mail ? You people are not serious, the best they could ever have done is to get him to commit to certain conditions, which they did . The hold up now is actually holding him to account to make sure he honours it .There is no doubt he will slim line the business going forward, he’s here to make a profit, not to make our lives easier. What do you think Thompson and co were doing previously.

Oh yeah I’m sure it couldn’t have been stopped but that’s not the point, the union shouldn’t be publicly backing the full takeover of a national company like RM by a foreign equity firm owned by a billionaire. In fact when Kretinsky was sporadically buying shares Ward and the union were actually saying he was the devil incarnate and that it’s the worst possible outcome. Then like magic when he buys 100% of the company Ward is telling the members that this is a positive step and a “reset in relations” with the employer. It’s bull.
Either Ward is a complete fool and felt flattered because Krestinsky was nice to him in a meeting room or even worse there has been brown envelopes handed around in the background.

[TopperGas]

The fact that this statement acknowledges that the union realises that executive action is a possibility points towards it probably happening over the next few weeks.
Get ready everyone, Ward and Walsh could very well be about to March us off a cliff once again. That’s if they could get us to back them for strike action this time round. They certainly won’t have my backing.

Would you rather the CWU bend over and accept everything RM propose ? If they did you’d be the first to complain about that as well.

Nah I would rather they just be more upfront and honest instead of spending the last year bigging up a foreign Billionaire as some sort of saviour, it’s absolute fantasy land stuff we have seen from Ward over the last 4 years but it’s really ramped up since Kretinsky bought the company. A proper union would have campaigned against the sale to him and fought for re-nationalisation. He’s gunna strip this business to the bone over the next decade and Ward will have his feet up collecting his fat pension.

How do you stop a business man buying Royal Mail ? You people are not serious, the best they could ever have done is to get him to commit to certain conditions, which they did . The hold up now is actually holding him to account to make sure he honours it .There is no doubt he will slim line the business going forward, he’s here to make a profit, not to make our lives easier. What do you think Thompson and co were doing previously.

Oh yeah I’m sure it couldn’t have been stopped but that’s not the point, the union shouldn’t be publicly backing the full takeover of a national company like RM by a foreign equity firm owned by a billionaire. In fact when Kretinsky was sporadically buying shares Ward and the union were actually saying he was the devil incarnate and that it’s the worst possible outcome. Then like magic when he buys 100% of the company Ward is telling the members that this is a positive step and a “reset in relations” with the employer. It’s bull.
Either Ward is a complete fool and felt flattered because Krestinsky was nice to him in a meeting room or even worse there has been brown envelopes handed around in the background.

What would the CWU have gained by sticking to the devil incarnate approach, nobody outside of the CWU members was listening to him, so trying to get him onside was the only real approach.

The suggestions brown envelopes were handed out is ridiculous given how the CWU have so stopped the ODM from proceeding, which is probably costing RM £m's.

[chickenwittle]

The fact that this statement acknowledges that the union realises that executive action is a possibility points towards it probably happening over the next few weeks.
Get ready everyone, Ward and Walsh could very well be about to March us off a cliff once again. That’s if they could get us to back them for strike action this time round. They certainly won’t have my backing.

Would you rather the CWU bend over and accept everything RM propose ? If they did you’d be the first to complain about that as well.

Nah I would rather they just be more upfront and honest instead of spending the last year bigging up a foreign Billionaire as some sort of saviour, it’s absolute fantasy land stuff we have seen from Ward over the last 4 years but it’s really ramped up since Kretinsky bought the company. A proper union would have campaigned against the sale to him and fought for re-nationalisation. He’s gunna strip this business to the bone over the next decade and Ward will have his feet up collecting his fat pension.

How do you stop a business man buying Royal Mail ? You people are not serious, the best they could ever have done is to get him to commit to certain conditions, which they did . The hold up now is actually holding him to account to make sure he honours it .There is no doubt he will slim line the business going forward, he’s here to make a profit, not to make our lives easier. What do you think Thompson and co were doing previously.

Oh yeah I’m sure it couldn’t have been stopped but that’s not the point, the union shouldn’t be publicly backing the full takeover of a national company like RM by a foreign equity firm owned by a billionaire. In fact when Kretinsky was sporadically buying shares Ward and the union were actually saying he was the devil incarnate and that it’s the worst possible outcome. Then like magic when he buys 100% of the company Ward is telling the members that this is a positive step and a “reset in relations” with the employer. It’s bull.
Either Ward is a complete fool and felt flattered because Krestinsky was nice to him in a meeting room or even worse there has been brown envelopes handed around in the background.

Ward has always said he would prefer renationalising the company but we all know that’s never going to happen, he’s also said he’d prefer it not to be a foreign investment company but he or us could do nothing to prevent it . He has to negotiate with this owner whether he likes it or not , what good is it going to do him or us if he came out and said what he really thought of the new owners.

[toonshola]

Well I guess some people still trust Ward and the CWU and others don’t. I think he’s a dodgy grandstanding fake virtue signaller who’s just looking to line his own pockets because he wouldn’t find a similar level of pay in another business due to his low skill set. Others obviously think different and that’s fine. Either way I have a feeling anyone working for RM are in for a rough ride in the near future (rougher even than we already have it)

[chickenwittle]

Well I guess some people still trust Ward and the CWU and others don’t. I think he’s a dodgy grandstanding fake virtue signaller who’s just looking to line his own pockets because he wouldn’t find a similar level of pay in another business due to his low skill set. Others obviously think different and that’s fine. Either way I have a feeling anyone working for RM are in for a rough ride in the near future (rougher even than we already have it)

I don’t disagree with much of that , my point is more around the CWU position in dealing with a new owner that nobody really wants but we have to negotiate with.

[hans solo]

Unfortunately its only negotiating in name
In real time ward and co are systematicly destroying our t&cs for RM benefit
The facts will come out in time

[TopperGas]

Unfortunately its only negotiating in name
In real time ward and co are systematicly destroying our t&cs for RM benefit
The facts will come out in time

RM are destroying them not the CWU, they seem to be putting up a fight to stop the ODM and it'll be interesting to see if RM go down the EA route, if not, what concessions are eventually made.