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Lost Special

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HTPostman
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Re: Lost Special

Post by HTPostman »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
19 Dec 2025, 19:57
This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
I prefer the great Stan Laurel’s version; ‘ You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.’
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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scoobydo79
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Re: Lost Special

Post by scoobydo79 »

TooManyLoops wrote:
19 Dec 2025, 21:04
Dan jack wrote:
19 Dec 2025, 18:16
Any updates on this ???

Did u find the special ??
No update, nothing has been said, and I didn't find it

I handed a packet to the address today, I was half expecting them to ask about it, but nothing
You probably just put it through the door.
TooManyLoops
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Re: Lost Special

Post by TooManyLoops »

Sort of an update?

Saturday, an SD for the same address, looked exactly like the one I had lost/misplaced :dance

I thought, oh it's turned up, so I checked the tracking, sent on Friday :shock:

Must be a replacement! But, nothing said about the other one :confused
Barnacle
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Re: Lost Special

Post by Barnacle »

TooManyLoops wrote:
21 Dec 2025, 20:35
Sort of an update?

Saturday, an SD for the same address, looked exactly like the one I had lost/misplaced :dance

I thought, oh it's turned up, so I checked the tracking, sent on Friday :shock:

Must be a replacement! But, nothing said about the other one :confused
Either, someone else found it and delivered it or, it contains drugs so they’re not going to chase mislaid packages
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
tramssirhc
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Re: Lost Special

Post by tramssirhc »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
19 Dec 2025, 19:57
tramssirhc wrote:
17 Dec 2025, 16:12

The CWU let's it's members do whatever they want despite knowing full well what that means when things go wrong. So yeah, the CWU is to blame.
I’m intrigued by your perspective. The CWU is a voluntarily joined organisation that provides invaluable guidance and negotiates on behalf of its members, whether advocating for an individual or representing the entire workforce, including non-members. Notably, their literature does not claim any disciplinary authority over members, even when they choose to ignore the union's advice. This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
Unions can and do discipline members. The CWU operates the archaic 'branching' system where members who don't do as their told get disciplined. The rulebook allows members to be disciplined and expelled.

The CWU guides, negotiates and represents it's members, no one else. Some of the agreements it negotiates cover matters that govern the contracts of all workers. No union, or at the least a proper trade union, represents non-members.

Let's be clear. It's a dereliction of duty to stand by and watch members put themselves in danger. In fact it's a breach of contract to stand by and watch anyone do anything they shouldn't. All workers are duty bound to speak up and speak out.

So yeah. Every time they CWU rep stands there and says nothing, it is the CWU's fault. That's collective responsibility for you. The same collective responsibility the CWU uses to branch it's members when they won't do what the 'collective' agreed.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Barnacle
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Re: Lost Special

Post by Barnacle »

tramssirhc wrote:
22 Dec 2025, 09:09
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
19 Dec 2025, 19:57
tramssirhc wrote:
17 Dec 2025, 16:12

The CWU let's it's members do whatever they want despite knowing full well what that means when things go wrong. So yeah, the CWU is to blame.
I’m intrigued by your perspective. The CWU is a voluntarily joined organisation that provides invaluable guidance and negotiates on behalf of its members, whether advocating for an individual or representing the entire workforce, including non-members. Notably, their literature does not claim any disciplinary authority over members, even when they choose to ignore the union's advice. This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
Unions can and do discipline members. The CWU operates the archaic 'branching' system where members who don't do as their told get disciplined. The rulebook allows members to be disciplined and expelled.

The CWU guides, negotiates and represents it's members, no one else. Some of the agreements it negotiates cover matters that govern the contracts of all workers. No union, or at the least a proper trade union, represents non-members.

Let's be clear. It's a dereliction of duty to stand by and watch members put themselves in danger. In fact it's a breach of contract to stand by and watch anyone do anything they shouldn't. All workers are duty bound to speak up and speak out.

So yeah. Every time they CWU rep stands there and says nothing, it is the CWU's fault. That's collective responsibility for you. The same collective responsibility the CWU uses to branch it's members when they won't do what the 'collective' agreed.
You are talking of extremes. I’ve never known anyone personally who was expelled from the union. I’ve known people who have left and have then had to wait to rejoin.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
sindba
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Re: Lost Special

Post by sindba »

tramssirhc wrote:
22 Dec 2025, 09:09
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
19 Dec 2025, 19:57
tramssirhc wrote:
17 Dec 2025, 16:12

The CWU let's it's members do whatever they want despite knowing full well what that means when things go wrong. So yeah, the CWU is to blame.
I’m intrigued by your perspective. The CWU is a voluntarily joined organisation that provides invaluable guidance and negotiates on behalf of its members, whether advocating for an individual or representing the entire workforce, including non-members. Notably, their literature does not claim any disciplinary authority over members, even when they choose to ignore the union's advice. This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
Unions can and do discipline members. The CWU operates the archaic 'branching' system where members who don't do as their told get disciplined. The rulebook allows members to be disciplined and expelled.

The CWU guides, negotiates and represents it's members, no one else. Some of the agreements it negotiates cover matters that govern the contracts of all workers. No union, or at the least a proper trade union, represents non-members.

Let's be clear. It's a dereliction of duty to stand by and watch members put themselves in danger. In fact it's a breach of contract to stand by and watch anyone do anything they shouldn't. All workers are duty bound to speak up and speak out.

So yeah. Every time they CWU rep stands there and says nothing, it is the CWU's fault. That's collective responsibility for you. The same collective responsibility the CWU uses to branch it's members when they won't do what the 'collective' agreed.
So wierd...
hewittinspain
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Re: Lost Special

Post by hewittinspain »

I've had a couple of incidents where I think I've had a special for a house and it's not in the van. I even went back to the office to see if I've left it but it turned out I totally imagined the whole thing and never had a special at all 🤣.
If I get more than 3 specials I write them down on paper and stick the paper into the CD slot (sticking out of course) so I know I'll never miss a deadline.
My specials always stay in it's tray and I make sure they are all there before I depart the office.
yellowbelly
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Re: Lost Special

Post by yellowbelly »

hewittinspain wrote:
02 Jan 2026, 20:36
I've had a couple of incidents where I think I've had a special for a house and it's not in the van. I even went back to the office to see if I've left it but it turned out I totally imagined the whole thing and never had a special at all 🤣.
If I get more than 3 specials I write them down on paper and stick the paper into the CD slot (sticking out of course) so I know I'll never miss a deadline.
My specials always stay in it's tray and I make sure they are all there before I depart the office.
Done that with normal parcels never mind specials, days all merge into each other!
Mr Rush
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Re: Lost Special

Post by Mr Rush »

Hitcher wrote:
17 Dec 2025, 13:50
When I started they were treated as special and should never leave your sight; nowadays I see them left all over the office with no regard whatsoever. :roll:
I remember being told to keep SDs in my bag and never to store them in the pouch boxes - practical only if they were all letters, which they increasingly were not. I never adhered to that particular instruction even after a scare with a broken box key. These days the secure locker is a throughfare and the carded specials just sit in the open till the next morning.
The machine stops.
Hitcher
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Re: Lost Special

Post by Hitcher »

Just remembered I also got a warning because I delivered a Special at 1:03pm. :chuckle