More mass exodus from delivery...

[twoloops]

We have three posties walk this week with a combined work knowledge of 80 years

[TopperGas]

Retiring or leaving for other jobs eIther way I'd imagine management are content the wage bill has been reduced?

[norris9]

Wage gets reduced (unless CWU sort that out), but who is coming in....someone that's going to stay for 3 weeks?, then someone replaces them and stays for 6 months?, then you have to replace that person with someone else...and so on....

Every time paying for...

-New uniform.
-Driving test.
-Training.
-New = more mistakes.
-New = More overtime as slow, or bringing stuff back so paying someone else to clear the round.


Better to pay people fairly and make sure they are happy. Maintaining a knowledgeable workforce without the hassle and cost of employing new recruits seems more logical.

[SMS1969]

Thinking of packing it in after 18 years. Job market is terrible right now though. Minimum wage will increase again in April. Always fancied to try a supermarket delivery driver. May have to give it a go at some point, not least due to the fact that it is physically less demanding and as we get older we need to preserve our capability of Employment in some capacity!

You won’t like the shifts, 6.30- 2.30 one day, then 3.45pm-11.45pm the next day etc. I’ve done it and talking to the drivers now, their slots for delivering have decreased to six minutes per customer, difficult to do if you have a lot for them and they aren’t allowed to claim o/t if they’re late back.

[eviljack]

Thinking of packing it in after 18 years. Job market is terrible right now though. Minimum wage will increase again in April. Always fancied to try a supermarket delivery driver. May have to give it a go at some point, not least due to the fact that it is physically less demanding and as we get older we need to preserve our capability of Employment in some capacity!

Tesco / Asda are the same shitshow as RM if you go speak to a few drivers.

It is physically less demanding though.

[cwyou]

Thinking of packing it in after 18 years. Job market is terrible right now though. Minimum wage will increase again in April. Always fancied to try a supermarket delivery driver. May have to give it a go at some point, not least due to the fact that it is physically less demanding and as we get older we need to preserve our capability of Employment in some capacity!

Tesco / Asda are the same shitshow as RM if you go speak to a few drivers.

It is physically less demanding though.

This

[yellowbelly]

Thinking of packing it in after 18 years. Job market is terrible right now though. Minimum wage will increase again in April. Always fancied to try a supermarket delivery driver. May have to give it a go at some point, not least due to the fact that it is physically less demanding and as we get older we need to preserve our capability of Employment in some capacity!

Tesco / Asda are the same shitshow as RM if you go speak to a few drivers.

It is physically less demanding though.

Not the driver who came to us the other day, probably same age as me, it was dark, raining and he admitted he was absolutely b0ll0xed.

When I told him I was a postie ('cos he handed me their version of the PDA to sign for the delivery), he said it's mentally and physically draining, a nightmare trying to find places down dark little country lanes in the dark with no house name, no parking in the evening in towns/residentials, other drivers giving you s**t for parking inconveniently when there's no other option, people forget they've got a delivery due, can't find their keys to the door, are not prepared to take the delivery off you, want to check every single item and yes for them too - DOGS!

[kazardaimenu]

Yes it sounds worse than this due to the late shift times they can end up on. If it was just a 7-3 8-4 sort of gig it might be reasonable enough.

[TopperGas]

Wage gets reduced (unless CWU sort that out), but who is coming in....someone that's going to stay for 3 weeks?, then someone replaces them and stays for 6 months?, then you have to replace that person with someone else...and so on....

Every time paying for...

-New uniform.
-Driving test.
-Training.
-New = more mistakes.
-New = More overtime as slow, or bringing stuff back so paying someone else to clear the round.


Better to pay people fairly and make sure they are happy. Maintaining a knowledgeable workforce without the hassle and cost of employing new recruits seems more logical.

That's a short term view, long term the business will be saving £1+ an hour, I've no idea why RM are so quick to hand out full uniforms to high starters until they've shown they are up to the job and won't leave within a month of starting.

[Saturn1]

Wage gets reduced (unless CWU sort that out), but who is coming in....someone that's going to stay for 3 weeks?, then someone replaces them and stays for 6 months?, then you have to replace that person with someone else...and so on....

Every time paying for...

-New uniform.
-Driving test.
-Training.
-New = more mistakes.
-New = More overtime as slow, or bringing stuff back so paying someone else to clear the round.


Better to pay people fairly and make sure they are happy. Maintaining a knowledgeable workforce without the hassle and cost of employing new recruits seems more logical.

That's a short term view, long term the business will be saving £1+ an hour, I've no idea why RM are so quick to hand out full uniforms to high starters until they've shown they are up to the job and won't leave within a month of starting.

Not forgetting a transient workforce is a lot less likely to be unionised making it easier for them to make changes, they don't join the pension for year 1, they cost less in holiday pay.

[Londonsburning]

Wage gets reduced (unless CWU sort that out), but who is coming in....someone that's going to stay for 3 weeks?, then someone replaces them and stays for 6 months?, then you have to replace that person with someone else...and so on....

Every time paying for...

-New uniform.
-Driving test.
-Training.
-New = more mistakes.
-New = More overtime as slow, or bringing stuff back so paying someone else to clear the round.


Better to pay people fairly and make sure they are happy. Maintaining a knowledgeable workforce without the hassle and cost of employing new recruits seems more logical.

You are forgetting the cardinal rule of being RM management, every single day is ad hoc, unplanned, illogical chaos.

[Perseus]

New entrants are paid £13.06 in my area, in line with others.
Legacy staff are on £16.38 when you take into consideration 3 hours worth of paid breaks and shift allowance per week.

[Mr Rush]

-Driving test.

I heard a claim anyone over 25 doesn't have to do the changeover now. New starts seem to be straight onto driving off their initial time with a WPC.

I've no idea why RM are so quick to hand out full uniforms to high starters until they've shown they are up to the job and won't leave within a month of starting.

Cause the uniform's defining quality is cheapness.

[ted_e_bear]

I've no idea why RM are so quick to hand out full uniforms to high starters until they've shown they are up to the job and won't leave within a month of starting.

Cause the uniform's defining quality is cheapness.

Just looked you can get a pair of cargo pants and a polo shirt from Primark for £18 I'd guess the cost price is absolutely nowhere near that

[Jonathan Alsatian]

The ASDA driver I was talking to recently said they deliver to 4 customers per hour and if those are all close together he is quite often sitting doing nothing waiting for the next hours slot to start before they can attend the next one. This is why you'll see them parked up around the corner from the next drop for ages. I asked a second driver this and he confirmed it is true. I can't comment on the other supermarkets because I haven't asked any of their drivers.

Carrying heavy trays of shopping up flights of stairs and being tracked by managers were the only negatives he mentioned.