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Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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menditsa
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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TopperGas wrote:
15 Aug 2025, 22:24
By chance today I had 4 heavy large parcels for a garage I've regularly delivered small parcels in the past, I wonder if they have used PF for them in the past?
I had three massive flat packs as tall and wide as york (White Sleeve) that were impossible for me to lift out on my own.

2 were to houses where the owners had to assist me lifting them in.

Last one was to a third floor flat with no lifts and no one to help.

If this continues we will need to have 2 man DPR routes.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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menditsa wrote:
16 Aug 2025, 11:18
TopperGas wrote:
15 Aug 2025, 22:24
By chance today I had 4 heavy large parcels for a garage I've regularly delivered small parcels in the past, I wonder if they have used PF for them in the past?
I had three massive flat packs as tall and wide as york (White Sleeve) that were impossible for me to lift out on my own.

2 were to houses where the owners had to assist me lifting them in.

Last one was to a third floor flat with no lifts and no one to help.

If this continues we will need to have 2 man DPR routes.
I had another half a dozen large sized boxes on the duty I'm covering this week, I'd put money on them previously being sent via PF, as I've never had so many large parcels on this particularly duty before this week.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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TopperGas wrote:
16 Aug 2025, 17:00

I had another half a dozen large sized boxes on the duty I'm covering this week, I'd put money on them previously being sent via PF, as I've never had so many large parcels on this particularly duty before this week.
For reference, I'm now DPR 13.30 - 19.30 but today I was covering mail on my old section.

The 2 posties who I know very well returned just as I was starting to bundle up part of their walk.

They had a 30kg massive Lawn Mower (Parcelforce) collection.

How the f**k are you expected to collect s**t like this while walking and delivering mail ?

This whole RM + Parcelfarce integration is a complete f**k up.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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menditsa wrote:
16 Aug 2025, 22:17
TopperGas wrote:
16 Aug 2025, 17:00

I had another half a dozen large sized boxes on the duty I'm covering this week, I'd put money on them previously being sent via PF, as I've never had so many large parcels on this particularly duty before this week.
For reference, I'm now DPR 13.30 - 19.30 but today I was covering mail on my old section.

The 2 posties who I know very well returned just as I was starting to bundle up part of their walk.

They had a 30kg massive Lawn Mower (Parcelforce) collection.

How the f**k are you expected to collect s**t like this while walking and delivering mail ?

This whole RM + Parcelfarce integration is a complete f**k up.
Review the collections on the PDA before you go out. If one looks like it could be a problem highlight it to your COM. If they say 'see what you can do when you get there', do exactly that and then give them a call. Make it their problem.

https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/WTLL.pdf

and

https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... Guide.pptx
In deliveries this means the same process for RM collect will apply and COMs will review all planned Parcel Collects for their offices in the morning at the start of shift via the Redlands Dashboard and follow the agreed process. Due to the size, weight and dimensions of some Parcel Collect we have secured the ability to utilise tailored options which can include alternative delivery vehicles, DPR, afternoon collection routes and PFW as a last resort. Where further support is required, the COM is to escalate to the relevant CCOM at the earliest opportunity.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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It'll be interesting to know the % of the collections that would have been PF which have been refused/rejected either because of not enough space in the van or the item being too big or heavy for one person to carry.
menditsa
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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yellowbelly wrote:
17 Aug 2025, 13:34

Review the collections on the PDA before you go out. If one looks like it could be a problem highlight it to your COM. If they say 'see what you can do when you get there', do exactly that and then give them a call. Make it their problem.
There are no collections on DPR at the moment and as I work 13.30 - 19.30, if I do cover a walk at 13.30 collections are already allocated to someone to cover in the morning.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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menditsa wrote:
17 Aug 2025, 18:36
yellowbelly wrote:
17 Aug 2025, 13:34

Review the collections on the PDA before you go out. If one looks like it could be a problem highlight it to your COM. If they say 'see what you can do when you get there', do exactly that and then give them a call. Make it their problem.
There are no collections on DPR at the moment and as I work 13.30 - 19.30, if I do cover a walk at 13.30 collections are already allocated to someone to cover in the morning.
It's still their problem to sort though. Even if it means they have to arrange for PF or someone to collect it next day.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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Parcel volumes still very high and this is late August before pay day week. The company need to get a handle on this before the winter deluge but they won’t.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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Parcels were through the roof every day apart from Monday this week. Drivers are being loaded up with even more small parcels thanks to a new scanning system that’s just come in that allows whoever is sorting to scan parcels to drivers routes with no way of removing it. Pretty unworkable and it’s only gonna get worse.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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kazardaimenu wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 07:06
Drivers are being loaded up with even more small parcels thanks to a new scanning system that’s just come in that allows whoever is sorting to scan parcels to drivers routes with no way of removing it. Pretty unworkable and it’s only gonna get worse.
When we scan parcels in the MC, for many of them even if we only scan the 1D barcode and not the 2D barcode the system knows where it's gong without access to the address encoded in the 2D barcode. The items get added to the york for the office that they're going to (the inward MC or a DO). When they arrive, the RFID tags get read and the system automatically flags all the items that were scanned into that york as having arrived at the next office.

I wouldn't put it past RM to eventually have the system automatically allocate items to walks/DPR routes once they're flagged as having arrived at a DO.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:52
kazardaimenu wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 07:06
Drivers are being loaded up with even more small parcels thanks to a new scanning system that’s just come in that allows whoever is sorting to scan parcels to drivers routes with no way of removing it. Pretty unworkable and it’s only gonna get worse.
When we scan parcels in the MC, for many of them even if we only scan the 1D barcode and not the 2D barcode the system knows where it's gong without access to the address encoded in the 2D barcode. The items get added to the york for the office that they're going to (the inward MC or a DO). When they arrive, the RFID tags get read and the system automatically flags all the items that were scanned into that york as having arrived at the next office.

I wouldn't put it past RM to eventually have the system automatically allocate items to walks/DPR routes once they're flagged as having arrived at a DO.
Assuming they all still arrive in the same yorks then somebody will still have to scan &/or sort them into walks/DPRs order when they arrive the DO
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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TopperGas wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 18:13
SpacePhoenix wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:52
kazardaimenu wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 07:06
Drivers are being loaded up with even more small parcels thanks to a new scanning system that’s just come in that allows whoever is sorting to scan parcels to drivers routes with no way of removing it. Pretty unworkable and it’s only gonna get worse.
When we scan parcels in the MC, for many of them even if we only scan the 1D barcode and not the 2D barcode the system knows where it's gong without access to the address encoded in the 2D barcode. The items get added to the york for the office that they're going to (the inward MC or a DO). When they arrive, the RFID tags get read and the system automatically flags all the items that were scanned into that york as having arrived at the next office.

I wouldn't put it past RM to eventually have the system automatically allocate items to walks/DPR routes once they're flagged as having arrived at a DO.
Assuming they all still arrive in the same yorks then somebody will still have to scan &/or sort them into walks/DPRs order when they arrive the DO
Can guarantee they won't arrive in same yorks as everything gets bulked out.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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Sean06 wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 20:45
TopperGas wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 18:13
SpacePhoenix wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:52
kazardaimenu wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 07:06
Drivers are being loaded up with even more small parcels thanks to a new scanning system that’s just come in that allows whoever is sorting to scan parcels to drivers routes with no way of removing it. Pretty unworkable and it’s only gonna get worse.
When we scan parcels in the MC, for many of them even if we only scan the 1D barcode and not the 2D barcode the system knows where it's gong without access to the address encoded in the 2D barcode. The items get added to the york for the office that they're going to (the inward MC or a DO). When they arrive, the RFID tags get read and the system automatically flags all the items that were scanned into that york as having arrived at the next office.

I wouldn't put it past RM to eventually have the system automatically allocate items to walks/DPR routes once they're flagged as having arrived at a DO.
Assuming they all still arrive in the same yorks then somebody will still have to scan &/or sort them into walks/DPRs order when they arrive the DO
Can guarantee they won't arrive in same yorks as everything gets bulked out.
We have an option now for the condensing of yorks. Not used it myself but I'm guessing that the york being condensed into gets scanned and then the york that's being condensed into the other york is scanned and the system transfers all item IDs to the york that's being condensed into.

A good few years ago now we used to scan out manual letters and flats to DOs, I reckon it's only a matter of time before all trays mech and manual get scanned out to DOs or inward MCs, so the next office knows how many trays of each type they'll be getting. Wouldn't put it past RM to eventually have a lorry scanned to a inward MC or DO so the inward MC or DO gets a fairly detailed breakdown of what they've got incoming to them.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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Pretty packed out again today Amazon must be dumping more than ever on us.
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Re: Parcels through the roof, Mondays now very busy

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kazardaimenu wrote:
11 Oct 2025, 15:47
Pretty packed out again today Amazon must be dumping more than ever on us.
Amazon Prime Day a few days ago so probably a backlog of orders now hitting us.