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USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

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Wullie10
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by Wullie10 »

That's where the company is screwed. Too many"" legacy "" workers knees shattered , backs in agony where they've been running around for years with little or no breaks. The answer is to replace them with the thousands of youngsters šŸ˜† desperate to follow their footsteps all knocking on the RM door demanding the best rounds and best holidays . The reality is the workforce is too old and knackered and no one decent to replace them.
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

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Youngsters in our office are the ones who are knackered, no work ethic no commitment just a sense of entitlement
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by Woody84 »

ted_e_bear wrote: ↑
19 Sep 2025, 15:14
Glad to hear they're going to prepare properly for the pending peak period I was worried it would be the same as all the previous years.
I see a lot of job ads have popped up looking for agency staff. I’ve also been approached to transfer by a few offices who now say they’re able to recruit.
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by Acca Dacca »

Smoothbackground wrote: ↑
20 Sep 2025, 04:17
jagger wrote: ↑
19 Sep 2025, 21:36
Do I work in the only office where the mail is ridiculously low?
Most frames, that have been going out, have about a 30% call rate. The posties are all laughing about it.
A lot of tracked packets, but these are all fobbed off to the DPR drivers in the afternoon.
Can’t see how we will ever make the profits that the new owner is expecting.
So you and your legacy-contract colleagues are laughing about your minuscule workload and doubtless wasting lots of time, perhaps even being parked up or sat idle for longer than you should be, while your DPR colleagues (doubtless new entrants but also called posties) are swamped with work? If your workload is down, you should be made to take some/all of the tracked for your walk, or given some lapsing or other work to do. It’s this blatant disparity in workload that is causing more than a few of our new-entrants to leave.

Our managers have been pulling up various p*sstakers in our office over the last week, and I particularly like the way they let us all know, whether directly or indirectly, who the culprits are. One of the culprits in particular is so cocksure of himself that he has continued to sit idle for a whole hour in the same location every single afternoon. He is but one of several/many.

The fundamental problem here is fixed duties. If fixed duties were abolished, manpower could be flexibly deployed to where it is needed. The unofficial and approximate rule of thumb used by our managers is that one new-entrant OPG can do the work of two legacy-contract OPGs. That is where I think the savings/profits really occur.

Advice to people on this forum;

Don’t take the bait that this post is designed to be just ignore him
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

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Good advice accašŸ˜Ž
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by thefox »

Bellaber wrote: ↑
20 Sep 2025, 06:43
Youngsters in our office are the ones who are knackered, no work ethic no commitment just a sense of entitlement
Young pups in our office dont normally last very long before moving on,there's a couple have hung around but even they are now talking of leaving.
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by Patmanposts »

SkiSunday wrote: ↑
19 Sep 2025, 18:59
Patmanposts wrote: ↑
19 Sep 2025, 17:50
Kick the can of doom further down the road. Try to buy more time in hopes that a literal miracle will emerge to make things work.

In the mean time, the poor posties have to continue with record volumes of parcels, heading into peak and crap weather on the way whilst still wondering if there will be any light at the end of the tunnel.

On a personal note… it has been almost 4 weeks since i left the company and i am so so glad / relieved that i did.

The only thing i took away from working with Royal Mail is a huge appreciation for posties. Hell of an eye opener to say the least. As a consequence, i now make an effort to provide feed back for my postie when i get any tracked delivered. He gets an automatic 10 and some nice comments although if his DO or manager is like mine was then he wont be able to see the comments or who gave them :arrrghhh .

I genuinely believe this company is beyond saving in any sensible way. And by sensible i mean enough staff and fair achievable work loads. It’s not going to happen any time soon, if ever…. Oh and also… the CWU are powerless and or incompetent.
Sean from processing will be along to put you in your place shortly lol.

Last week i received a letter from RM (as well as my P45 lol) asking for feed back on the survey we were all coerced into doing a couple of months back. This was my chance for feedback, I wasn’t going to hold back but when i scanned the QR code i received a message telling me i am no longer employed so i couldn’t continue :chuckle
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

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jagger wrote: ↑
19 Sep 2025, 21:36
Do I work in the only office where the mail is ridiculously low?
Most frames, that have been going out, have about a 30% call rate. The posties are all laughing about it.
A lot of tracked packets, but these are all fobbed off to the DPR drivers in the afternoon.
Can’t see how we will ever make the profits that the new owner is expecting.
My impression / guestimate from reading all available Postie forums over the last 15 months (apart from face book), is that the amount of DO that are managing mail (low volumes) appears to be the minority.

I am surprised you even have DPR! what a dream.

If i had been working in your DO i would still be working for the company and be happy as well.


My DO…. Mail call rate averaged 70%, double-treble mail every day for us new starts. No DPR and vans that you are lucky if they start in the mornings.
Huge comparison.

I genuinely hope it lasts for you.
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by fadetogrey63 »

My DO…. Mail call rate averaged 70%, double-treble mail every day for us new starts. No DPR and vans that you are lucky if they start in the mornings.
Huge comparison.

I genuinely hope it lasts for you.
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Yeah you nailed it 100%, this sounds exactly like our office,.. They needs just parcel only vans now for the way it's going, but no hope of that
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

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Do any two DOs function or are run in an identical way?
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by claretandblue »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
20 Sep 2025, 14:15
Do any two DOs function or are run in an identical way?
Nope, which is why a one size fits all USO reform will never work.
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by Acca Dacca »

claretandblue wrote: ↑
20 Sep 2025, 14:48
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
20 Sep 2025, 14:15
Do any two DOs function or are run in an identical way?
Nope, which is why a one size fits all USO reform will never work.
correct
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by Smoothbackground »

Acca Dacca wrote: ↑
20 Sep 2025, 08:33
Advice to people on this forum;

Don’t take the bait that this post is designed to be just ignore him
I am a woman — and a child-bearing one at that (unlike you, who may have traits of ā€œold womanā€ but are not a real one!). You mean ā€œignore HERā€! Show some respect, chummy.
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by Mr Rush »

jagger wrote: ↑
19 Sep 2025, 21:36
Do I work in the only office where the mail is ridiculously low?
No, sub-30% callrates here throughout the summer, it's just that there's no-one to deliver it. So whilst on paper it looks like every day is a Tuesday, in actuality no-one gets the benefit of working off a clean frame. We don't have DPRs, although we have agency covering Tracked for duties falling with style, and as we're just starting loop 2 at the stroke of noon on a good day no-one wants to extend or mop-up like when we were done at noon and had all afternoon for OT.

15 years ago I used to clear my duty in 90 minutes on a Tuesday with four times more mail than I can shift in 5 hours now. I really believe once-over-the-ground has become, counterintuitively, a massive inefficiency.
The machine stops.
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Re: USO update - (Not as big as we were promised)

Post by taurus88 »

We have very low volumes of mail, but it’s not helping at all when you’re delivering double/treble mail, record volumes of parcels, and when another member of staff leaves every other week. More will leave before Christmas. Hard to see how to avoid failure across the board in the next few months.