Call me old fashioned (and I've been a postie for a lot less time than many on here), but I thought ALL mail was to be delivered on the day it arrived in the office. I was told when I joined that the difference between 1st and 2nd was the time it took to get through the distribution chain..........
How things have changed in my short time........
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Picking out first class
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Picking out first class
I know what you mean and yes that's correct in how the system is supposed to work, I don't know if it's actually supposed to be permitted to leave mail undelivered regardless of being 1st class or whatever.yellowbelly wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 14:44Call me old fashioned (and I've been a postie for a lot less time than many on here), but I thought ALL mail was to be delivered on the day it arrived in the office. I was told when I joined that the difference between 1st and 2nd was the time it took to get through the distribution chain..........
How things have changed in my short time........
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Mr Rush
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Re: Picking out first class
Correct, and 'streaming' was very infrequent back in the day - maybe if things were really bad and you weren't willing to work past your time you'd be instructed to leave the 2nd class (not that it helped when DSA was almost everything).yellowbelly wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 14:44Call me old fashioned (and I've been a postie for a lot less time than many on here), but I thought ALL mail was to be delivered on the day it arrived in the office. I was told when I joined that the difference between 1st and 2nd was the time it took to get through the distribution chain..........
How things have changed in my short time........
We used to moan about delivering crap to people's doors and the company line was every bit of mail was important. Now the company tells us people only get shite that they don't want and we complain it's all important.
The machine stops.
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abuch1980
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Re: Picking out first class
Perseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
If the postie takes 1st class letters, then they may as well take everything for that house. The system is broke and nobody, nobody knows how to fix it properly and fairly.
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Perseus
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Re: Picking out first class
As long as it is sitting there already sorted ready to go, then yeah, they would want you to take that too - they even created a term for it.abuch1980 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 11:26Perseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
If the postie takes 1st class letters, then they may as well take everything for that house. The system is broke and nobody, nobody knows how to fix it properly and fairly.
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Thommo44
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Re: Picking out first class
Coincidental Mail?Perseus wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 12:24As long as it is sitting there already sorted ready to go, then yeah, they would want you to take that too - they even created a term for it.abuch1980 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 11:26Perseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
If the postie takes 1st class letters, then they may as well take everything for that house. The system is broke and nobody, nobody knows how to fix it properly and fairly.
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SkiSunday
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Re: Picking out first class
Commit to deliver.Thommo44 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 15:37Coincidental Mail?Perseus wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 12:24As long as it is sitting there already sorted ready to go, then yeah, they would want you to take that too - they even created a term for it.abuch1980 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 11:26Perseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
If the postie takes 1st class letters, then they may as well take everything for that house. The system is broke and nobody, nobody knows how to fix it properly and fairly.
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Perseus
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Re: Picking out first class
Thats the one.Thommo44 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 15:37Coincidental Mail?Perseus wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 12:24As long as it is sitting there already sorted ready to go, then yeah, they would want you to take that too - they even created a term for it.abuch1980 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 11:26Perseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
If the postie takes 1st class letters, then they may as well take everything for that house. The system is broke and nobody, nobody knows how to fix it properly and fairly.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Picking out first class
If the rest of the walk isn't going out then the USO isn't being met.
Delivering % 1st class within x days and % 2nd class within x days are OFCOM/RM reliability targets.
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funkflex55
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Re: Picking out first class
That's what I thought too. Whatever arrives in the office is due out that day. The cheaper products have probably already been held as long as they can get away with so if they're then delayed further then they are late.yellowbelly wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 17:00If the rest of the walk isn't going out then the USO isn't being met.
Delivering % 1st class within x days and % 2nd class within x days are OFCOM/RM reliability targets.
As long as the savings made by deliberately understaffing offices and prioritizing premium products are greater than ofcom fines, things will not change.