I bet if you were to pick any DO in the country and look at how it and every DO around it work, all them DOs would each do things differently with no two of them doing things the same way.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
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SpacePhoenix
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funkflex55
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You can have vertical prep without removing wings and making every slot a double slot.scoobydo79 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:18How can it be good then? You just gave two good reasons why most say it isntfunkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.
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SkiSunday
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Amazing piece of observational talent you have there SP lolSpacePhoenix wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:39I bet if you were to pick any DO in the country and look at how it and every DO around it work, all them DOs would each do things differently with no two of them doing things the same way.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
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qwerty2
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Think every frame in ours is double slots - always has beenfunkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:42You can have vertical prep without removing wings and making every slot a double slot.scoobydo79 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:18How can it be good then? You just gave two good reasons why most say it isntfunkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.
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Perseus
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It's one of the reasons that the ODM has fared differently from one area to the next.
They are trying to forcefully standardise something in offices that are wildly different in the way that they currently work.
You only have to look at the switch to shared vans for example, offices were doing it for years whilst others continued on bikes etc. Duty lengths of 3.5 hours at Office A, but 10 miles down the road at office B they are 5hrs as standard. Double/triple slots in some offices and singles all the way in others. I could go on.
They are trying to forcefully standardise something in offices that are wildly different in the way that they currently work.
You only have to look at the switch to shared vans for example, offices were doing it for years whilst others continued on bikes etc. Duty lengths of 3.5 hours at Office A, but 10 miles down the road at office B they are 5hrs as standard. Double/triple slots in some offices and singles all the way in others. I could go on.
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Thommo44
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I’m on packets and parcels tomorrow, partner on rest day. On Saturday we will do one round and a couple of loops of the other which didn’t get done today. I could not complete the packets and 1C, we haven’t had any instruction so some of tomorrows 1C will not be done until Tuesday at the earliest.
They would rather send mail sort to rurals 6 days a week than cover a town round
They would rather send mail sort to rurals 6 days a week than cover a town round
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Rve83ndxd
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Re: Picking out first class
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:52
Manual letters and flats should be arriving at your DO with 1C and 2C in separate trays (it should also be the case for outward MC to inward MC as well).
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pieoftheday
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Letters still bring in millions to RM, delaying any of them makes no sensePerseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
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Delaying the 2C makes financial sense for the new owner, as he is now on the hook for any Ofcom fines due to the stricter targets for 1C.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 19:12Letters still bring in millions to RM, delaying any of them makes no sensePerseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
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SkiSunday
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If you compare the OFCOM fines to the laughable service, for 1st and 2nd class revenue/robbery. DK is pissing himself laughing all the way to the bank.Perseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 19:18Delaying the 2C makes financial sense for the new owner, as he is now on the hook for any Ofcom fines due to the stricter targets for 1C.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 19:12Letters still bring in millions to RM, delaying any of them makes no sensePerseus wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 18:26Why is picking out 1st class letters crazy? If a 'walking' duty isn't going out it makes perfect sense to meet the USO by taking 1C letters.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:53Rm is utterly bonkers, DOs across the land work in completely different ways to others. Picking out 1st class letters,funkflex55 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:29Yes this was also changed ages ago and the office layout was done so it all follows on. Vertical prep, although I know some hate it in my opinion is a good change. Double slots and reduced top space due to wings removal are not so good.![]()
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SpacePhoenix
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Your local MC can't be doing this properly. We sort all outward and inward mail to separate 1C and 2C frames, each boxed up separately, white labels for 1C trays, white with green stripes for 2C trays, both then go onto the same yorks. 1C and 2C mech get run together, the machines decide what 2C needs to be released. Whatever 2C is released gets sequenced along with the 1C (walk sorted for wave 2).Rve83ndxd wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 19:11SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 17:52
Manual letters and flats should be arriving at your DO with 1C and 2C in separate trays (it should also be the case for outward MC to inward MC as well).![]()
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Mr Rush
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Ignoring Starbursting which I think was introduced with SDD in some places, the earliest P&L trials were 2008 and the last bikes were withdrawn in 2014 - so potentially six years of coveting thy neighbour's lack of van sharing. Interestingly, in 2005 there were more bikes in the fleet than vans. One wonders what the grams of CO2 per packet were twenty years ago.
Maximum profit for the least effort. If they can limbo under the supine Ofcom, the greater.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 19:12Letters still bring in millions to RM, delaying any of them makes no sense
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robriggs
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Anyway,according to this,nothing is wrong at Royal Mail. It’s the NHS etc who are to blame!! This response to a Member of Parliament is outrageous. And the last sentence quite frankly beggars belief!!! The public have “outdated expectations” of the service we provide!!!!!!
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clashcityrocker
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I think they do.
I have numerous conversations with people concerned about how often we deliver and how much mail they are receiving.
Usually people haven't received any mail for a number of days because nobody has written to them.
Obviously there are instances where due to staff shortages and managerial incompetence some people do go without a delivery for days.
And then everyone who doesn't get a letter for a few days jumps on the bandwagon and assumes they are not getting a delivery either, when the truth is far simpler.
Friday conversation:
Postman - is this the first day you have been delivering this week?
No. I have been delivering all week.
But this is the first piece of mail I have had all week.
Well maybe nobody has written to you .......?
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Perseus
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So would you agree that some offices are more prepared for the change that the ODM would bring?Mr Rush wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 22:07Ignoring Starbursting which I think was introduced with SDD in some places, the earliest P&L trials were 2008 and the last bikes were withdrawn in 2014 - so potentially six years of coveting thy neighbour's lack of van sharing. Interestingly, in 2005 there were more bikes in the fleet than vans. One wonders what the grams of CO2 per packet were twenty years ago.
Maximum profit for the least effort. If they can limbo under the supine Ofcom, the greater.pieoftheday wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 19:12Letters still bring in millions to RM, delaying any of them makes no sense