The Postal Executive has agreed the following timetable for the forthcoming ballot on Royal Mail Pay:

[menditsa]

Has voting started ?

Nothing has been said at my DO.

[Rommagic]

Yes voting started.

[norris9]

Digital voting, get your vote in and maybe this can all be completed earlier.

[Sean06]

Digital voting, get your vote in and maybe this can all be completed earlier.

How can it be completed earlier the deadline is 26th august.

[TopperGas]

Digital voting, get your vote in and maybe this can all be completed earlier.

How can it be completed earlier the deadline is 26th august.

I assume it could be first pass the post, as once a certain number vote yes (or no), it could become impossible for no (or yes), to win the vote?

[Jen1]

I don’t get it??

What the funk am I supposed to be voting for? What is rebuilding Royal Mail part 1?

All I can find is that it’s a groundbreaking agreement that puts workers back at the heart of the company, introduces a radical new governance model and has government oversight. It totally changes the ethos of the company.

So can anyone tell me what that actually is? Is it just a bunch of words they strung together over tea and hobnobs

And why would I say no to a pay rise? Yes please I’ll have a pay rise why do I need to vote on that?

[A2B]

And why would I say no to a pay rise? Yes please I’ll have a pay rise why do I need to vote on that?

Because other people do not think the pay rise is enough so you get to vote yes if you think it's enough or no if you don't

[Thommo44]

I don’t get it??

What the funk am I supposed to be voting for? What is rebuilding Royal Mail part 1?

All I can find is that it’s a groundbreaking agreement that puts workers back at the heart of the company, introduces a radical new governance model and has government oversight. It totally changes the ethos of the company.

So can anyone tell me what that actually is? Is it just a bunch of words they strung together over tea and hobnobs

And why would I say no to a pay rise? Yes please I’ll have a pay rise why do I need to vote on that?

Pretty sure it was chocolate hobnobs, they wouldn’t be backing this if they had only had the plain ones

[Thommo44]

I don’t get it??

What the funk am I supposed to be voting for? What is rebuilding Royal Mail part 1?

All I can find is that it’s a groundbreaking agreement that puts workers back at the heart of the company, introduces a radical new governance model and has government oversight. It totally changes the ethos of the company.

So can anyone tell me what that actually is? Is it just a bunch of words they strung together over tea and hobnobs

And why would I say no to a pay rise? Yes please I’ll have a pay rise why do I need to vote on that?

Pretty sure it was chocolate hobnobs, they wouldn’t be backing this if they had only had the plain ones. It just feels like we’re voting for the unknown, no details and the likelihood 20% less delivery staff required to meet their forecasts for ODM or the Australian method. 3.4% for 20% more output somehow doesn’t make sense

[Thommo44]

I don’t get it??

What the funk am I supposed to be voting for? What is rebuilding Royal Mail part 1?

All I can find is that it’s a groundbreaking agreement that puts workers back at the heart of the company, introduces a radical new governance model and has government oversight. It totally changes the ethos of the company.

So can anyone tell me what that actually is? Is it just a bunch of words they strung together over tea and hobnobs

And why would I say no to a pay rise? Yes please I’ll have a pay rise why do I need to vote on that?

Pretty sure it was chocolate hobnobs, they wouldn’t be backing this if they had only had the plain ones. It just feels like we’re voting for the unknown, no details and the likelihood 20% less delivery staff required to meet their forecasts for ODM or the Australian method. 3.4% for 20% more output somehow doesn’t make sense

[Thommo44]

Haven’t got a clue why it’s repeating the message, apologies

[Barnacle]

Haven’t got a clue why it’s repeating the message, apologies

Because it was definitely CHOCOLATE HOBNOBS.

[POSTMAN]

[Hyrrokkin]

I get the sales pitch but there is no such thing as a "no strings pay rise" in RM. This so-called "unconditional offer" isn't really an exception because of the structural reforms that are already being rolled out and if it costs the business £220 million for a pay rise in year one; they will want to recoup that back with millions saved from changes to the USO. The maths is quite simple: same amount of work - less staff = increased workloads

Once again, I'm not convinced that the CWU will resolve what they said was one of their red lines when we were on the picket lines. Equalising all those inferior contracts sometime on the never-never depending on whether the company makes a big fat profit or not appears to be worlds away.

Like I keep saying, IDS isn't broke. It has billions sitting in cash reserves and retained earnings that gives it plenty of financial headroom so for the CWU to come and say that they cannot afford £183 million to equalise all those new entrants is a bit like saying "they didn't earn much this month" while knowing that they still have millions in the bank. There are many reasons why RM might not have earned much that month - for example, they might have spent it all on some shiny new parcel lockers or lent some of it to their younger sibling, GLS.

RM are still hiring more new entrants on worse terms while talks continue is proof that the company is still infatuated with the gig-economy model, and it's easy to see why. From their perspective it's low maintenance, bargain basement labour that keeps costs down. By the time any full equalisation is eventually done and dusted many of today's new entrants will have already left and RM will have hired more staff on worse terms in the meantime. This hiring model is essentially a carousel that never stops.

I'll be voting no. I think the company can afford to offer more and there are better ways to push them than going straight to an all-out strike. Our biggest leverage right now is that RM needs our agreement to roll out the ODM, so I would start with that.

postslippete yet again hits the nail right on the head

RM following the Amazon model blueprint down to a tee - which has been their long term objective for years.

CWU only care about one thing - the subs and ££££££££££ it brings them....kerching and we are the mugs as always

[Thommo44]

Haven’t got a clue why it’s repeating the message, apologies

Because it was definitely CHOCOLATE HOBNOBS.