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LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update
No. 167/25

11th August 2025

BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

Dear Colleagues,

Further to LTB 074/25, issued on 14th April, which confirmed that both parties have agreed to suspend Seasonal Variation for 2025 due to the significant unknowns and uncertainties concerning USO Reform activity.

After the LTB was circulated, the Department received numerous enquiries from Branches in terms of when this suspension of Seasonal Variation will be reflected in the PSP system and, therefore, individual members’ annual leave cards. At that time, Royal Mail was unable to confirm the direct timelines as to when PSP will be updated to reflect the agreed suspension of Seasonal Variation, but did confirmed that the PSP system was still reflecting and deducting annual leave based on the original Seasonal Variation design, a 15-week High Season and a 15-week Low Season, as set out in Appendix 1 of the Business Recovery, Transformation & Growth (BRT&G) Agreement. This was communicated to Branches and Representatives in ODM 022/25, issued on 17th April.

Royal Mail further advised at the time that given the agreement to suspend Seasonal Variation in 2025, ‘all leave in that period would be reverted to Mid-Season/Contracted hours within PSP in the coming weeks once upgrade has occurred.’

Unfortunately, despite continuously raising this matter with Royal Mail during this period, there has been a noticeable delay in finally reverting leave within PSP back to Mid-Season/Contracted hours.

We have now been advised that the wider and final PSP system update, based on the suspension of Seasonal Variation this year, will now take place in November and will remove the impact of Seasonal Variation from all local Delivery units for 2025.

However, in the meantime, Royal Mail have shared via the attached comms, issued today to all Delivery managers, the following manual corrections to individual employee annual leave records in PSP to ensure they are accurate ahead of November, when a final technical solution will be made. This plan will be briefed locally in units outlining the following changes:

HR Services leave balance corrections

HR Services will run an initial update to correct leave balances for employees whose leave was incorrectly deducted due to the system assuming Low Season. This correction applies to leave taken between May and June.

Updated leave balances will be visible in PSP and the People App from around 11 August.

Impact of the update

As PSP treated employees as being in Low Season instead of Mid Season, the correction will deduct additional time from leave balances. The impact will vary depending on full-time or part-time status and the number of leave days taken.

Ongoing monthly adjustments

HR Services will repeat the correction process monthly, at the start of each month, to maintain accurate leave balances. Each update will reflect corrections for the previous month.

These monthly updates will be visible in PSP and the People App from around the second week of each calendar month.

September onwards

From September, the effect will reverse, and employees may see leave time credited back, depending on leave taken.

November onwards

The manual process will continue until the permanent technical solution is deployed in November, which will fully remove the Seasonal Variation effect from the system.

These changes in PSP will not impact current planned and booked annual leave arrangements for individuals.

This period of ongoing delay has not been a helpful development, but it is now hoped that this further clarification will end any remaining confusion in this regard and confirm the steps to correct leave in the PSP system following the suspension of Seasonal Variation this year.

If any member believes that, as a result of these changes outlined above, there have been errors made with their allocated Annual Leave entitlement and / or the changes create additional problems, the business have confirmed that, in the first instance, line managers should be able to assist, as outlined in the attached Royal Mail Comms. Equally, as confirmed above, these changes in PSP will not impact or alter currently planned and booked annual leave arrangements for members.

Any enquiries to the content of this LTB should be directed to the Outdoor Department, email address: Pharacz@cwu.org.

Yours sincerely,

Tony Bouch

Assistant Secretary


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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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"We made a mistake but will still be robbing your wages if you want any time off for the next few months, until the next holiday ban in mid November, oops sorry"
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Had our pants down once again, just like the pay deal, what a rotten horrible deceiving company Royal Mail is :evil/mad
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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How the f**k is it so difficult to have just changed it as soon as it was agreed to be regular hours this year ? :arrrghhh
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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ted_e_bear wrote:
11 Aug 2025, 18:39
How the f**k is it so difficult to have just changed it as soon as it was agreed to be regular hours this year ? :arrrghhh
If it works in our favour you can bet it will take forever to be implemented. Meanwhile you know someone's hand is hovering over the Link-Pay-to-SISO button.
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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Season Variation = Failed

New prep trials = Failed

ODM pilots = Failed

Which w****r is thinking up this s**t? CWU pull your f**king finger out and get this sorted.
CUT OFF!!!
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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Phantom wrote:
12 Aug 2025, 17:18
Season Variation = Failed

New prep trials = Failed

ODM pilots = Failed

Which w****r is thinking up this s**t? CWU pull your f**king finger out and get this sorted.
They couldn’t sort toffee!!
CWU failed on everything
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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Phantom wrote:
12 Aug 2025, 17:18
Season Variation = Failed

New prep trials = Failed

ODM pilots = Failed

Which w****r is thinking up this s**t? CWU pull your f**king finger out and get this sorted.
I'll add to that....they're f***ing experts at spunking money away

World class mail, cost a fortune = Failed

Change name to Consignia, cost a fortune = Failed

Anyone else think of other examples ?
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Pointless further change of name to IDS even though all the media still refer to the company as RM?
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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ted_e_bear wrote:
12 Aug 2025, 19:16
Phantom wrote:
12 Aug 2025, 17:18
Season Variation = Failed

New prep trials = Failed

ODM pilots = Failed

Which w****r is thinking up this s**t? CWU pull your f**king finger out and get this sorted.
I'll add to that....they're f***ing experts at spunking money away

World class mail, cost a fortune = Failed

Change name to Consignia, cost a fortune = Failed

Anyone else think of other examples ?
Promoting all linos to COMs. Nice little payrise for every single one of them.
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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Does anyone know what happened to all the hours we "banked" last winter doing the extra two hours a week that we are not getting back this summer? Are they paying as overtime or were we all just rogered with a poster tube again?
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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Superbuss1886 wrote:
18 Aug 2025, 22:18
Does anyone know what happened to all the hours we "banked" last winter doing the extra two hours a week that we are not getting back this summer? Are they paying as overtime or were we all just rogered with a poster tube again?
Have a look on your annual leave tile on people’s app - they’ve already adjusted my extra owed hours!
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Re: LTB 167/25 – BRT&G Agreement – Seasonal Variation 2025 Further Update

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Can anyone confirm if the said changes to psp regarding non seasonal variation hours this year mean that AVC’s can return to pre week 23 levels (ie calculations based on 37 hours a week instead of 39)?