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New Delivery model
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Playmail
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Re: New Delivery model
paul/mark van share monday 1c/2c parcels
tue paul 1c parcels mark day off
wed mark paul van share 1c/2c
thurs paul day off mark 1c parcels
friday van share 1c/2c parcels
sat 1c parcels paul
sunday pacels mark
make monday wed fri shifts longer
no need for reserves
alternate sat sunday
tue paul 1c parcels mark day off
wed mark paul van share 1c/2c
thurs paul day off mark 1c parcels
friday van share 1c/2c parcels
sat 1c parcels paul
sunday pacels mark
make monday wed fri shifts longer
no need for reserves
alternate sat sunday
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SkiSunday
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- Gender: Male
Re: New Delivery model
As long as the Tracked are completed daily, then the COMs get their bonus. It's called lying that the office is clear every day unless there's an audit.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:26I wondered about that too but it doesn't fit with staying on your duty as that's a load of the staff that can't stay on their own duty as you'll no longer have a partner, also there'd be quite a few excess staff in a lot of offices, in effect it's a big duty that only gets half the mail delivered on alternate days, hope they inform us soon about what the proposal is.kazardaimenu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:08Probably be do your duty and then cover your partner’s side’s tracked specials collections etc then rotate. When it gets too bad maybe you get a reserve on to help. That’s what’s been going on at our place all summer.
Edit...oh hang on did you mean two people do it together, surely that's not a cost saver it's a reaction to a workload that's far too big, or is it a cost saver in that when there's too much work it simply doesn't get completed, that's hardly a robust plan even by RM's low standards.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: New Delivery model
Youve not taken into account Paul or Mark being a non driver or legacy workers who dont work SundaysPlaymail wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:35paul/mark van share monday 1c/2c parcels
tue paul 1c parcels mark day off
wed mark paul van share 1c/2c
thurs paul day off mark 1c parcels
friday van share 1c/2c parcels
sat 1c parcels paul
sunday pacels mark
make monday wed fri shifts longer
no need for reserves
alternate sat sunday
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Perseus
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- Gender: Male
Re: New Delivery model
As above, same as us. Not uncommon for shared vans in ours to have 2 people on it only twice a week. Rest of the time people have to bounce from side to side. 4hr 20 to 5hrs depending how many days mail. Our office was actually looking forward to the ODM coming in as they would then be forced to deal with these issues head on. Doesn't look like we will get the chance now.SkiSunday wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:20We have been doing that between 2 of us for 5 years now. 1 full walk and the Tracked, Reggies, collections on the other. Unless it's busy then it can be as little as a row.kazardaimenu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:08Probably be do your duty and then cover your partner’s side’s tracked specials collections etc then rotate. When it gets too bad maybe you get a reserve on to help. That’s what’s been going on at our place all summer.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: New Delivery model
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If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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SkiSunday
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Re: New Delivery model
The CWU tried to manipulate delivery colleagues into agreement through sleight of hand, by saying the pilots were working originally.Perseus wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:45As above, same as us. Not uncommon for shared vans in ours to have 2 people on it only twice a week. Rest of the time people have to bounce from side to side. 4hr 20 to 5hrs depending how many days mail. Our office was actually looking forward to the ODM coming in as they would then be forced to deal with these issues head on. Doesn't look like we will get the chance now.SkiSunday wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:20We have been doing that between 2 of us for 5 years now. 1 full walk and the Tracked, Reggies, collections on the other. Unless it's busy then it can be as little as a row.kazardaimenu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:08Probably be do your duty and then cover your partner’s side’s tracked specials collections etc then rotate. When it gets too bad maybe you get a reserve on to help. That’s what’s been going on at our place all summer.
Sir Dave and his fawners DO NOT have their wage payers best interests in mind.
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hewittinspain
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: New Delivery model
Theory is good but the Sunday will be an issue for most of the staff that don't work them.Playmail wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:35paul/mark van share monday 1c/2c parcels
tue paul 1c parcels mark day off
wed mark paul van share 1c/2c
thurs paul day off mark 1c parcels
friday van share 1c/2c parcels
sat 1c parcels paul
sunday pacels mark
make monday wed fri shifts longer
no need for reserves
alternate sat sunday
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kazardaimenu
- Posts: 1391
- Joined: 13 Apr 2022, 19:11
- Gender: Male
Re: New Delivery model
No they will need something new and something that gives the impression that all the first class is going out every day…
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Basildon Bond
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Re: New Delivery model
And what about getting the D2Ds into the frame - that's a critical part of the job!Acca Dacca wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:43Youve not taken into account Paul or Mark being a non driver or legacy workers who dont work SundaysPlaymail wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:35paul/mark van share monday 1c/2c parcels
tue paul 1c parcels mark day off
wed mark paul van share 1c/2c
thurs paul day off mark 1c parcels
friday van share 1c/2c parcels
sat 1c parcels paul
sunday pacels mark
make monday wed fri shifts longer
no need for reserves
alternate sat sunday
Seriously, they could save money on the lockers RM are buying/renting and fix the problem of non-drivers by having the caller's office open early to late all day and staff with non-drivers (who could put D2Ds in while there is no one calling for a parcel).
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SkiSunday
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Re: New Delivery model
How do you justify drawing a 45K per year wage from a failing business though? LolBasildon Bond wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 18:35And what about getting the D2Ds into the frame - that's a critical part of the job!Acca Dacca wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:43Youve not taken into account Paul or Mark being a non driver or legacy workers who dont work SundaysPlaymail wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:35paul/mark van share monday 1c/2c parcels
tue paul 1c parcels mark day off
wed mark paul van share 1c/2c
thurs paul day off mark 1c parcels
friday van share 1c/2c parcels
sat 1c parcels paul
sunday pacels mark
make monday wed fri shifts longer
no need for reserves
alternate sat sunday![]()
Seriously, they could save money on the lockers RM are buying/renting and fix the problem of non-drivers by having the caller's office open early to late all day and staff with non-drivers (who could put D2Ds in while there is no one calling for a parcel).
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pieoftheday
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Re: New Delivery model
Well if it weren't for none drivers everything would be tickerty boo and drivers would have piss easy jobs and the company would be raking it in, boo none driversBasildon Bond wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 18:35And what about getting the D2Ds into the frame - that's a critical part of the job!Acca Dacca wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:43Youve not taken into account Paul or Mark being a non driver or legacy workers who dont work SundaysPlaymail wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 17:35paul/mark van share monday 1c/2c parcels
tue paul 1c parcels mark day off
wed mark paul van share 1c/2c
thurs paul day off mark 1c parcels
friday van share 1c/2c parcels
sat 1c parcels paul
sunday pacels mark
make monday wed fri shifts longer
no need for reserves
alternate sat sunday![]()
Seriously, they could save money on the lockers RM are buying/renting and fix the problem of non-drivers by having the caller's office open early to late all day and staff with non-drivers (who could put D2Ds in while there is no one calling for a parcel).
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kazardaimenu
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Re: New Delivery model
Maybe they could offer the non drivers redundancy and get the business model working the way they want it.
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A2B
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Re: New Delivery model
I don't think drivers looking to leave RM would be too happy with thatkazardaimenu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 19:00Maybe they could offer the non drivers redundancy and get the business model working the way they want it.
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pieoftheday
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Re: New Delivery model
I work in a D.O with around ,edit 60 odd, paired duties, around 15 none drivers maybe a couple more, that's a lot of redundancykazardaimenu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 19:00Maybe they could offer the non drivers redundancy and get the business model working the way they want it.
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kazardaimenu
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Re: New Delivery model
Imagine the uproarA2B wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 19:04I don't think drivers looking to leave RM would be too happy with thatkazardaimenu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025, 19:00Maybe they could offer the non drivers redundancy and get the business model working the way they want it.![]()