New Delivery model

[SkiSunday]

pal. The non driving contract OPGs ((before 2006) should be offered processing duties/jobs at the closest MC or, if the DO runs on all drivers, VR and free training for another trade.


Not thought that through have you.

How tf are non drivers getting to a mail centre if they don’t drive ? Most are miles away and on industrial estates where busses and trains don’t go.

To add to that , nearest to me is about 45 miles away.

I have thought that through.

If you are a non driver, then you should be offered a non driving duty at the closest MC. What part of that do you not understand exactly?

Some DOs are situated in cities, amongst 10,15, even 20 DOs within commuting distance for OPGs without driving licences, who probably have a lot more seniority than most of the actual employees in processing.

What exactly is your issue here, other than not offering senior delivery OPGs an indoor duty at their closest MC?

[Perseus]

What's your plan to make a Saturday shorter if only 50% of staff are in?

I don't have all the answers - ask Martin. I've long said that some duties need to be put back in our office for the ODM to work but I assume that it would be something like prioritising the Specials, Tracked items and any 1c off 2 duties??

I don't think anyone is going to get a straight answer on how something like that would work from the CWU, as it soon became clear that the 'options' around attendance patterns were severely limited for many units. It's just when you said 'I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.' - it made me think you'd have an idea of implementing it. Doing 2 duties of packets, first class, specials etc etc often doesn't fit into a 'normal' day, let alone a shorter one.

[kazardaimenu]

If you left the T48s til Monday it could well work.

[Mr Rush]

pal. The non driving contract OPGs ((before 2006) should be offered processing duties/jobs at the closest MC or, if the DO runs on all drivers, VR and free training for another trade.

Was years after 2006 contracts changed to needing a license

I joined after this and mine doesn't state driving.

It's not known exactly when the contracts changed. P&L was trialled in 2008 and I believe locked in for national rollout from 2009, which would likely be the time driving became a requirement of employment.

[postslippete]

What's your plan to make a Saturday shorter if only 50% of staff are in?

I don't have all the answers - ask Martin. I've long said that some duties need to be put back in our office for the ODM to work but I assume that it would be something like prioritising the Specials, Tracked items and any 1c off 2 duties??

I don't think anyone is going to get a straight answer on how something like that would work from the CWU, as it soon became clear that the 'options' around attendance patterns were severely limited for many units. It's just when you said 'I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.' - it made me think you'd have an idea of implementing it. Doing 2 duties of packets, first class, specials etc etc often doesn't fit into a 'normal' day, let alone a shorter one.

Yeah, like I said they might need to put some duties in. RM might not get the initial savings that they originally expect but something needs to happen so that there is a more manageable workload. Managers have got all the figures for Tracked items on their dashboards, for example, how many Tracked items have been delivered on that date, distance travelled, time taken etc. They could use all this data to try and balance out the walks in an office.

All that really needs to happen is for senior managers to bite the bullet, accept the fact that walks need to be put back in where required and then start piloting the changes in gradually and see what works and what doesn't work. This change really needs to be done in phases, starting with delivering 2c 5 days a week and then scaling down from there. That is how I would implement it.

[Idk]

The only way for big savings is less staff, sorry to be brutal but that's the road we will likely end up down

[Rommagic]

Where is cwu idea of the uso?.

[hans solo]

Long (heavy) short (light)days
Their ifeas are worse than RM

[funkflex55]

Long (heavy) short (light)days
Their ifeas are worse than RM

Problem is, on the light days the work is only just achievable as light days don't happen very often these days. If you make them any shorter then the walks will not be achievable.

[Woody Guthrie]

Where is cwu idea of the uso?.

The Divisional reps were summoned to the dark place today to be briefed/unbriefed.
We'll probably find out soonish.

[Rommagic]

Where is cwu idea of the uso?.

The Divisional reps were summoned to the dark place today to be briefed/unbriefed.
We'll probably find out soonish.

Good as most managers don't know anything about it.

[scoobydo79]

Where's the savings under this new model?

Remove paid breaks for old contracts?

Didn’t take long for the nonsense replies

It will happen…eventually

[Perseus]

I'm guessing a lot of offices don't already do long and shorts?

[hewittinspain]

I can see the model being similar to what we are doing now, bare bones staff and concentrating on 1C and Tracked whilst taking as much of the other mail as possible then swapping over the next day. I think the days of totally clearing a duty have gone.

[Acca Dacca]

When are we going to find out more details?