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New Delivery model

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Hitcher
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by Hitcher »

Valentina@1 wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 10:39
RM gonna let CWU design this stage of USO then 18 months or so down line say,it’s not enough savings go back to offcom to have minimal letter service.
This is definitely the long term goal here. They now know they can plead poverty to Ofcom and they'll agree.
Perseus
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by Perseus »

1 in 2 Saturdays only works with 100% driving staff.
ted_e_bear
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by ted_e_bear »

Perseus wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:19
1 in 2 Saturdays only works with 100% driving staff.
That's what I thought although It could if they adopt that bit someone said about if you both go in then you can finish early, I don't quite get it though how could that work would the manager be able to manually "dock" both people 3.5 hrs pay (Saturdays are supposed to be 7hrs on the odm) as you wouldn't be doing a full days work each, or would one go in for free on the understanding the other did the same another week.
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Re: New Delivery model

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Perseus wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:19
1 in 2 Saturdays only works with 100% driving staff.
In the podcast , Martin Walsh said it actually solves the problem of non drivers , how that works I don’t know.
hewittinspain
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by hewittinspain »

Me personally I'd rather work slightly longer days in the week to have a full weekend off. The majority of staff want more Saturdays off and hardly anyone would prefer to work Saturdays
That for me would be an ideal carrot dangler. I'd take 1 in 2 Saturdays off with the other one being shorter. It also gives people two days off together which in itself gives people a better rest.
Acca Dacca
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by Acca Dacca »

chickenwittle wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:36
Perseus wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:19
1 in 2 Saturdays only works with 100% driving staff.
In the podcast , Martin Walsh said it actually solves the problem of non drivers , how that works I don’t know.
Are you sure he said 1 in 2 Saturdays? I honestly cant remember him saying it.

Can Martin maybe clear it up on here?
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GV1998
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by GV1998 »

I tried to figure out what long & short & stay on your own walk could mean in real terms plus save the 25% out of 4 duties…
Maybe it’s make 4 frames into 3?
1 person at each frame, Monday top 2 rows all mail & bottom 2 rows 1st class & all parcels,
Tuesday bottom 2 rows all mail & top 2 rows 1st class & all parcels etc etc

Everyone stays on their normal walk just 30% bigger, not going to every address on half on it will help with completion & fatigue…
Just my thoughts maybe wrong?
Let’s see next week

Also I realise some offices have had dodgy revisions with unachievable walks but this would probably work ok in my office
chickenwittle
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Re: New Delivery model

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Acca Dacca wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 15:07
chickenwittle wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:36
Perseus wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:19
1 in 2 Saturdays only works with 100% driving staff.
In the podcast , Martin Walsh said it actually solves the problem of non drivers , how that works I don’t know.
Are you sure he said 1 in 2 Saturdays? I honestly cant remember him saying it.

Can Martin maybe clear it up on here?
I’m sure.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by Woody Guthrie »

He actually said "every other Saturday" which is probably vague enough to give the tin foil hat brigade some fuel but pretty much means 1 in 2.

How he plans to achieve that and whether every office will manage it I guess we'll find out next week.

I've tried to get my head around this "heavy and light" USO 2.0 model but I'm struggling to see how it can both address fatigue and the non drivers issue and make a reasonable amount of savings but I'm willing to be educated.
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claretandblue
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by claretandblue »

Acca Dacca wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 15:07
chickenwittle wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:36
Perseus wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 14:19
1 in 2 Saturdays only works with 100% driving staff.
In the podcast , Martin Walsh said it actually solves the problem of non drivers , how that works I don’t know.
Are you sure he said 1 in 2 Saturdays? I honestly cant remember him saying it.

Can Martin maybe clear it up on here?
I've already answered this once.
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Perseus
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by Perseus »

Every other Saturday plus shorter Saturdays, plus staying on your own run again sounds like promising everything to everyone.

To get every other Saturday off means 50% of staff in each week, no?
If you want to do your own run on a shorter Saturday, who is doing the runs of the 50% of the office who aren’t in?

It seems full of contradictions and I’ll happily be corrected.
yubin282
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Re: New Delivery model

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chickenwittle wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 10:33
Hearing we are now moving towards 1 in 2 Saturdays off with Saturdays still an early finish. Also talking about longs and shorts so assuming weds/ thurs longer days . Also talking about staying permanently on your own duty now rather than being moved about. How do we feel this will play out ? I’m fully expecting a CWU pile on from the usual suspects but in reality it would have been stupidity to sign off on a model that was doomed to failure.
doomed to failure - they've signed it off many times before.
MERLIN681901
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by MERLIN681901 »

Can someone from the union explain how longer days are going to work in Scotland when we’re already on a16.30 finish time.
chickenwittle
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Re: New Delivery model

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yubin282 wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 16:40
chickenwittle wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 10:33
Hearing we are now moving towards 1 in 2 Saturdays off with Saturdays still an early finish. Also talking about longs and shorts so assuming weds/ thurs longer days . Also talking about staying permanently on your own duty now rather than being moved about. How do we feel this will play out ? I’m fully expecting a CWU pile on from the usual suspects but in reality it would have been stupidity to sign off on a model that was doomed to failure.
doomed to failure - they've signed it off many times before.
What’s been signed off exactly ?
kazardaimenu
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Re: New Delivery model

Post by kazardaimenu »

What happened to Delivery 2.0 will that rear it’s ugly head again one day?