Uso agreement

[Perseus]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

[claretandblue]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

We went from a Dom and 3 line managers, to a lead com, and 3 coms, at considerable expense

[SMS1969]

3 into 4 is no more, they are presenting a new ODM to the PEC on Monday, hopefully we should find out what it is next week.

Martin said you get to stay on your own walk and it solves the non drivers issue

Wander if it means no re pick?

[SMS1969]

3 into 4 is no more, they are presenting a new ODM to the PEC on Monday, hopefully we should find out what it is next week.

Martin said you get to stay on your own walk and it solves the non drivers issue

Im going to guess it will be some sort of more extreme longs and shorts ( hour+ difference rather than 10-15 minutes )

A shorter day doing both walks van sharing only 1st class and parcels and then doing everything the next on a long day

Mon - long
Tue - short
wed - long
thurs - short
fri - long
sat - short

How much can be saved from doing that I dont know but I guess the savings from the current 3 into 4 doesnt matter as it doesnt work

Well the talk was a mixture of heavy and light days in this ‘ new model’ to be trialled, all to be revealed next week..

[Woody84]

What would it mean for PT new entrants wanting FT contracts? The new uso could have meant more FT contracts.

[TopperGas]

What would it mean for PT new entrants wanting FT contracts? The new uso could have meant more FT contracts.

If you've worked for RM for a few years you know talk of FT contracts usually comes to nothing.

[menditsa]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

What do the 5 Line Managers in my DO do between 10.00 - 14.30

22.5 hours day doing what ?

[goldy2007]

What would it mean for PT new entrants wanting FT contracts? The new uso could have meant more FT contracts.

If you've worked for RM for a few years you know talk of FT contracts usually comes to nothing.

Not been a warts and all FT contract in well over 20 years we’ve got posties on 30/32 contracts for over 12 years

[HTPostman]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

What do the 5 Line Managers in my DO do between 10.00 - 14.30

22.5 hours day doing what ?

I worked indoors for the best part of a month, we usually had 6 line managers, it was startling to see what they did and didn’t do once everyone went out on delivery.

[norris9]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

Not sure I've seen a single comment on here where someone has said about completely ridding all managers. That obviously wouldn't happen for a number of reasons.

You could easily reduce the number of managers by a decent % by simply making our duties 'job and finish'. No lapsing. You just come in and clear your duty no matter how light or heavy it is....and go home when you're done. The main problem with this is making sure all duties are covered every single day even if someone goes off sick, someone is on annual leave, someone has their day off. Will EP Group put in the work to make sure we are setup in a way so that this happens if something like this was implemented.... who knows.

I'd happily come in to single mail with my current duty the size it is and clear it each day as I believe over the year I will average my contracted hours. In the summer I'll be going home 20 to 40 minutes early. During the Xmas period I'd be going over by 20 to 40 minutes.

[SkiSunday]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

Not sure I've seen a single comment on here where someone has said about completely ridding all managers. That obviously wouldn't happen for a number of reasons.

You could easily reduce the number of managers by a decent % by simply making our duties 'job and finish'. No lapsing. You just come in and clear your duty no matter how light or heavy it is....and go home when you're done. The main problem with this is making sure all duties are covered every single day even if someone goes off sick, someone is on annual leave, someone has their day off. Will EP Group put in the work to make sure we are setup in a way so that this happens if something like this was implemented.... who knows.

I'd happily come in to single mail with my current duty the size it is and clear it each day as I believe over the year I will average my contracted hours. In the summer I'll be going home 20 to 40 minutes early. During the Xmas period I'd be going over by 20 to 40 minutes.

You won't be making our annual "infinite profit growth" profile that RM UK now is. Therefore, your job is obsolete norris9.

[theotherone]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

Not sure I've seen a single comment on here where someone has said about completely ridding all managers. That obviously wouldn't happen for a number of reasons.

You could easily reduce the number of managers by a decent % by simply making our duties 'job and finish'. No lapsing. You just come in and clear your duty no matter how light or heavy it is....and go home when you're done. The main problem with this is making sure all duties are covered every single day even if someone goes off sick, someone is on annual leave, someone has their day off. Will EP Group put in the work to make sure we are setup in a way so that this happens if something like this was implemented.... who knows.

I'd happily come in to single mail with my current duty the size it is and clear it each day as I believe over the year I will average my contracted hours. In the summer I'll be going home 20 to 40 minutes early. During the Xmas period I'd be going over by 20 to 40 minutes.

It just wouldn't ever get going.
There would we absolute no trust from staff ever that it would work.

[Londonsburning]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

Not sure I've seen a single comment on here where someone has said about completely ridding all managers. That obviously wouldn't happen for a number of reasons.

You could easily reduce the number of managers by a decent % by simply making our duties 'job and finish'. No lapsing. You just come in and clear your duty no matter how light or heavy it is....and go home when you're done. The main problem with this is making sure all duties are covered every single day even if someone goes off sick, someone is on annual leave, someone has their day off. Will EP Group put in the work to make sure we are setup in a way so that this happens if something like this was implemented.... who knows.

I'd happily come in to single mail with my current duty the size it is and clear it each day as I believe over the year I will average my contracted hours. In the summer I'll be going home 20 to 40 minutes early. During the Xmas period I'd be going over by 20 to 40 minutes.

It just wouldn't ever get going.
There would we absolute no trust from staff ever that it would work.

"equalising" of labour vs workload would be up there on the agenda. Employing, on stupid wages I might add, outsiders to decide walks is ridiculous. Take note DK

[Perseus]

There 100% need to be a manager in an office. Suggesting getting rid of thme and constantly complaining about their pay/bonuses is dog whistling.

Not sure I've seen a single comment on here where someone has said about completely ridding all managers. That obviously wouldn't happen for a number of reasons.

You could easily reduce the number of managers by a decent % by simply making our duties 'job and finish'. No lapsing. You just come in and clear your duty no matter how light or heavy it is....and go home when you're done. The main problem with this is making sure all duties are covered every single day even if someone goes off sick, someone is on annual leave, someone has their day off. Will EP Group put in the work to make sure we are setup in a way so that this happens if something like this was implemented.... who knows.

I'd happily come in to single mail with my current duty the size it is and clear it each day as I believe over the year I will average my contracted hours. In the summer I'll be going home 20 to 40 minutes early. During the Xmas period I'd be going over by 20 to 40 minutes.

You did. On the previous page.

"Interesting that Dave wants to trial having no managers and having us posties manage ourselves."

PS, what is your obsession with job and finish? It's not coming back, and it has more flaws in it than the current system.

[Acca Dacca]

It’s more likely there would be one main office manager and the line managers would be replaced by team leader types who would still go out on a walk

The idea of no manager at all and everyone just decides what they are doing is nonsense let’s just nip that in the bud