Martin Walsh DGSP:A message to new entrants in Royal Mail Group

[Patmanposts]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Yep. I do not take a break and purely work my contracted 6 hours. If i wanted to take a break (20 minutes) i would clock out 20 minutes later.

[Barnacle]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Yep. I do not take a break and purely work my contracted 6 hours. If i wanted to take a break (20 minutes) i would clock out 20 minutes later.

So they haven’t told you that you have to take a break?

[Patmanposts]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Ours have been told that they can’t NOT take the break because they gave to take a break by law.

“Entitled" to a break or have a “right" to a break is uk law. As it is unpaid the company cannot force you to take one.

[Patmanposts]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Yep. I do not take a break and purely work my contracted 6 hours. If i wanted to take a break (20 minutes) i would clock out 20 minutes later.

So they haven’t told you that you have to take a break?

No and i would tell them that its up to me.

[Barnacle]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Ours have been told that they can’t NOT take the break because they gave to take a break by law.

“Entitled" to a break or have a “right" to a break is uk law. As it is unpaid the company cannot force you to take one.

So if they choose not to take a break, that’s it? They can’t be made to come in early?

[Patmanposts]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Ours have been told that they can’t NOT take the break because they gave to take a break by law.

“Entitled" to a break or have a “right" to a break is uk law. As it is unpaid the company cannot force you to take one.

So if they choose not to take a break, that’s it? They can’t be made to come in early?

Not if you are on a 6 hour or less contract. The law is quite clear that working ‘more’ than 6 hours then your company can force you to take a break for health and safety reasons… but if thats the case then it must be in the middle of your shift and not at the beginning or end of your shift.

[Barnacle]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Ours have been told that they can’t NOT take the break because they gave to take a break by law.

“Entitled" to a break or have a “right" to a break is uk law. As it is unpaid the company cannot force you to take one.

So if they choose not to take a break, that’s it? They can’t be made to come in early?

Not if you are on a 6 hour or less contract. The law is quite clear that working ‘more’ than 6 hours then your company can force you to take a break for health and safety reasons… but if thats the case then it must be in the middle of your shift and not at the beginning or end of your shift.

Oh that’s where they’ve got them at ours then - they’re doing a 7 hour shift.

[TopperGas]

Every single new entrant in ours takes a 20 minute break alongside their van share partner. I've no idea if management claw it back somehow.

Ours were told this week they must clock out 20 mins after the legacy contract staff, even if it means just sitting around for 20 mins!!

Ludicrous.

They are entitled to an unpaid 20 minute break but they can’t be forced to take one.

They could work their 6 hour shift and not take one.

This has been answered on another thread ( the legal part of it )

Ours have been told that they can’t NOT take the break because they gave to take a break by law.

“Entitled" to a break or have a “right" to a break is uk law. As it is unpaid the company cannot force you to take one.

All our new contacts were told they must take their break or they'd be docked 20 mins pay..

[Smoothbackground]

All our new contacts were told they must take their break or they'd be docked 20 mins pay..

An idle threat, no more, no less.

[Barnacle]

Would it have killed them to produce a national standard practice on this, instead of allowing managers to make it up as they go along?

[Patmanposts]

All our new contacts were told they must take their break or they'd be docked 20 mins pay..

An idle threat, no more, no less.

Exactly this.

[Patmanposts]

Would it have killed them to produce a national standard practice on this, instead of allowing managers to make it up as they go along?

Yep. i Guess having grey areas only benefits the company. The more national agreements between a union and HR the better, anything left to an opinion of a manager is bad for employees.

[TopperGas]

All our new contacts were told they must take their break or they'd be docked 20 mins pay..

An idle threat, no more, no less.

Pretty certain they are all now doing has told, particularly as our union rep attended the meeting.

[Barnacle]

All our new contacts were told they must take their break or they'd be docked 20 mins pay..

An idle threat, no more, no less.

Pretty certain they are all now doing has told, particularly as our union rep attended the meeting.

They can’t dock pay. Yet.

[menditsa]

All our new contacts were told they must take their break or they'd be docked 20 mins pay..

An idle threat, no more, no less.

They enforced it at my DO for us on 6 hour contracts to take a 30 min break for ages.

Now we just do our 6 hours not 6 hours 30 mins.