I'm a postman.
Low skilled jobs fall under the bracket of any occupation that needs minimal training to be able to work.
We fall under that bracket, like many other jobs.
We work extremely hard and many of us are very intelligent but it falls under the bracket of unskilled work.
That's just fact.
You shouldn't undersell yourself and your OPG colleagues tbh. Do you think that your COMs deserve the £45K wage for being 'unskilled' workers? Because most of them don't have any formal managerial qualifications or training, therefore fall under your bracket of unskilled work also.
I know postman(sic) that earn more than that to be honest and they deserve every penny of it because they work extremely hard.
You can get caught up on factual terminology that I have used.
People often get offended by that term and I can see why but to earn what we do or can earn without an extensive training programme is not the norm.
Because of our union.
Are they receiving London weighting allowance whilst also working 60 hours a week by any chance? Because that is diabolical if you're using that as a £45K annual wage example.
I know postman that earn more than managers, quite a few.
That was what the prior post was referring too.
What hours are your £45K PA earning posties working? Also are they DO OPGs, do they cover a walk every day, do they receive the London weighting allowance?
My original argument was do you consider COMs as unskilled? because it looks like you do, yet you are championing delivery posties being paid peanuts.
What hours are your £45K PA earning posties working? Also are they DO OPGs, do they cover a walk every day, do they receive the London weighting allowance?
My original argument was do you consider COMs as unskilled? because it looks like you do, yet you are championing delivery posties being paid peanuts.
They are maxing their hours every week, and yes some do get London weighting.
It's needed when your rents are almost twice the national average.
Managerial roles in any occupation are better paid because they come with added responsibilities and pressure.
They do have frequent courses while learning too.
Doesn't mean I think they are more intelligent or able than OPGs.
Getting caught up on the terminology.
Still one of, if not, the best paid low skilled jobs out there with job security and union representation on every shop floor.
Not including the new t's and C's in that.
If the equalisation of terms is achieved the CWU will be the first union in history to reverse a two tiered workforce.
Besides the sick policy changes that will hopefully be addressed within time I really don't see the decimation that you do.
EP have committed to addressing both these issues within time.
The reality is the company need to achieve healthy profits again for all this to filter down.
Our jobs have got harder with the increase in parcels but the uberisation of the delivery industry have created an environment that it's hard to complete with these other firms that don't offer any of the benefits to employees that we get.
The return off delivering parcels is not as financially beneficial as it should be for royal mail.
It's not a equal playing field as it stands.
Just reposting this for you so you don't forget...
What hours are your £45K PA earning posties working? Also are they DO OPGs, do they cover a walk every day, do they receive the London weighting allowance?
My original argument was do you consider COMs as unskilled? because it looks like you do, yet you are championing delivery posties being paid peanuts.
They are maxing their hours every week, and yes some do get London weighting.
It's needed when your rents are almost twice the national average.
Managerial roles in any occupation are better paid because they come with added responsibilities and pressure.
They do have frequent courses while learning too.
Doesn't mean I think they are more intelligent or able than OPGs.
Getting caught up on the terminology.
Explain your colleagues "maxing hours" please. I would especially like to see how your non London weighting recipient colleagues are earning what you say.
What hours are your £45K PA earning posties working? Also are they DO OPGs, do they cover a walk every day, do they receive the London weighting allowance?
My original argument was do you consider COMs as unskilled? because it looks like you do, yet you are championing delivery posties being paid peanuts.
They are maxing their hours every week, and yes some do get London weighting.
It's needed when your rents are almost twice the national average.
Managerial roles in any occupation are better paid because they come with added responsibilities and pressure.
They do have frequent courses while learning too.
Doesn't mean I think they are more intelligent or able than OPGs.
Getting caught up on the terminology.
Explain your colleagues "maxing hours" please. I would especially like to see how your non London weighting recipient colleagues are earning what you say.
33 hours a week overtime, some of it SA.
Like I say they work hard
What hours are your £45K PA earning posties working? Also are they DO OPGs, do they cover a walk every day, do they receive the London weighting allowance?
My original argument was do you consider COMs as unskilled? because it looks like you do, yet you are championing delivery posties being paid peanuts.
They are maxing their hours every week, and yes some do get London weighting.
It's needed when your rents are almost twice the national average.
Managerial roles in any occupation are better paid because they come with added responsibilities and pressure.
They do have frequent courses while learning too.
Doesn't mean I think they are more intelligent or able than OPGs.
Getting caught up on the terminology.
Explain your colleagues "maxing hours" please. I would especially like to see how your non London weighting recipient colleagues are earning what you say.
33 hours a week overtime, some of it SA.
Like I say they work hard
Lol so you are saying COMs are unskilled, yet you still think OPGs deserve shite wages. give your head a wobble pal
They do have a training programme.
Why you get trainee managers.
Trained on how to bully new start OPGs? They didn't used to need trained for that lol
You make a fair point
Where are your full time colleagues working 33 hours OT every week pal?
Nowhere because you is a liar
Yes, ok I'm a liar, have it your way if you like.
Nothing what I've said is true and I'm using it merely to back up my points.
Going round in circles here, no interest in name calling and getting in petty rows on here was just trying to add some balance to the some of these threads, that's all.
give your head a wobble pal
