New National policy - DPR loading Vans

[fadetogrey63]

I'm on new contract so have no choice but to reluctantly do a Sunday once a month, cos I have no real idea where I'm going I find it a lot easier to number them, any parcels I have left or address I can't find I just mark up as no answer or inaccessible

[Smoothbackground]

I always feel like taking longer to do the van loading/numbering thing takes a bit longer to get out, but saves time once you're out.

If I just load up the van in terms of streets/walks I always need to keep stopping to have a tidy - and quite often I've missed something and have to go back somewhere.

So true. It saves masses of time — to the extent you can deliver twice as much in a day as the guy next to you who slings it all in the van, slams the doors, leaves an hour before you, yet you’re back two hours before him! I I number and sort mine every time. Failing to prepare = preparing to fail.

[qwerty2]

I always feel like taking longer to do the van loading/numbering thing takes a bit longer to get out, but saves time once you're out.

If I just load up the van in terms of streets/walks I always need to keep stopping to have a tidy - and quite often I've missed something and have to go back somewhere.

So true. It saves masses of time — to the extent you can deliver twice as much in a day as the guy next to you who slings it all in the van, slams the doors, leaves an hour before you, yet you’re back two hours before him! I I number and sort mine every time. Failing to prepare = preparing to fail.

“back two hours before him!” - well you should be sent back out to help him

[kazardaimenu]

Will be allowed home early. Managers discretion

[TopperGas]

I always feel like taking longer to do the van loading/numbering thing takes a bit longer to get out, but saves time once you're out.

If I just load up the van in terms of streets/walks I always need to keep stopping to have a tidy - and quite often I've missed something and have to go back somewhere.

So true. It saves masses of time — to the extent you can deliver twice as much in a day as the guy next to you who slings it all in the van, slams the doors, leaves an hour before you, yet you’re back two hours before him! I I number and sort mine every time. Failing to prepare = preparing to fail.

Nonsense if you know the duty you just put them all in house/street order in your van in 15 mins, only somebody who doesn't know the duty/duties needs to spend an hour numbering them and then putting them in number order. Do you think a postie doing a van share or rural numbers their parcels up every day?

[chickenwittle]

It’s a waste of time handling them indoors and again whilst loading the van, much better and far quicker doing it as u load the van.

Been working this way since scanning started , why wouldn’t you.

[Agencyoap]

It’s amazing how the “we used to” posters on here always know best !!
Perhaps that’s why the company is in such a state - because you’ve “always done it like this”!!!

I do 120-140 large parcels a day spread over 20-30 miles
I’m given 6-9 York’s in totally random order to load
We jump from duty to duty over 27 DP duties
I number using the van loading tool
There’s NO WAY I can know every duty
We have to follow the gun
You try loading 9 York’s alphabetically
And as for the comment we’ve been found out - try it yourself and let me know

I’m sick of people saying how great they do things and how sh1t us newbies are
You’ve been deluded fir so long you have no idea of how far other companies have moved on

[Clappedoutpostie]

It’s a waste of time handling them indoors and again whilst loading the van, much better and far quicker doing it as u load the van.

why wouldn’t you.

Hanging it out so they can either do less parcels or book more docket at a guess.

[Jonathan Alsatian]

Why aren't any of you using the van loading tool on the PDA? It's so much simpler than numbering or alphabetising!

Do you know what the van loading tool does? It lets you scan each parcel on your manifest and gives you a number for each parcel so you can number them and load them onto the van in numerical order. I'd say everyone who numbers their parcels will use it, I can't see how they could be numbered without the tool. It also gives an option to split the van into zones but I don't know anyone who bothers with zones as its easier just to do rows across the van with low numbers near the rear doors and highest numbers at the bulkhead as obviously those will be the last drops.

As others have pointed out. A dpr round covers loads of duties, often several postcode sectors, so it can't be done by memory.

[Hitcher]

Do you know what the van loading tool does?

Yes, I've used it for years now and I've never had to number my packets.

It lets you scan each parcel on your manifest and gives you a number for each parcel so you can number them and load them onto the van in numerical order.

That's not what it's meant for though.

It also gives an option to split the van into zones but I don't know anyone who bothers with zones as its easier just to do rows across the van with low numbers near the rear doors and highest numbers at the bulkhead as obviously those will be the last drops.

That's literally putting them in zones so why not let the PDA do the work for you?

[menditsa]

Hanging it out so they can either do less parcels or book more docket at a guess.

LOL

You think I want to work past 8pm at night and as our routes are scanned with 5 hours work please tell me how I can less in if it's already allocated ?

[Smoothbackground]

It’s amazing how the “we used to” posters on here always know best !!
Perhaps that’s why the company is in such a state - because you’ve “always done it like this”!!!

I do 120-140 large parcels a day spread over 20-30 miles
I’m given 6-9 York’s in totally random order to load
We jump from duty to duty over 27 DP duties
I number using the van loading tool
There’s NO WAY I can know every duty
We have to follow the gun
You try loading 9 York’s alphabetically
And as for the comment we’ve been found out - try it yourself and let me know

I’m sick of people saying how great they do things and how sh1t us newbies are
You’ve been deluded fir so long you have no idea of how far other companies have moved on

[Smoothbackground]

I always feel like taking longer to do the van loading/numbering thing takes a bit longer to get out, but saves time once you're out.

If I just load up the van in terms of streets/walks I always need to keep stopping to have a tidy - and quite often I've missed something and have to go back somewhere.

So true. It saves masses of time — to the extent you can deliver twice as much in a day as the guy next to you who slings it all in the van, slams the doors, leaves an hour before you, yet you’re back two hours before him! I I number and sort mine every time. Failing to prepare = preparing to fail.

Nonsense if you know the duty you just put them all in house/street order in your van in 15 mins, only somebody who doesn't know the duty/duties needs to spend an hour numbering them and then putting them in number order. Do you think a postie doing a van share or rural numbers their parcels up every day?

Nonsense? How? Speaking for myself, I have reached the point where I know our duties inside out, backwards, forwards, sideways.

Numbering parcels has nothing to do with whether you know your geography. This isn’t about being able to deliver a York’s worth of large for a duty or paired duty just from your scribbled crib sheet. This is about being able to load a van to the ceiling with 150+ parcels in strict numerical order, maximising every inch of van space, and setting yourself up for an efficient run.

What you and your legacy colleagues are suggesting here is akin to just throwing your mech boxes of mail in the back of the van and delivering straight from them as you go round rather than throwing them off into the frame, bundling up, etc.

[Jonathan Alsatian]

Do you know what the van loading tool does?

Yes, I've used it for years now and I've never had to number my packets.

It lets you scan each parcel on your manifest and gives you a number for each parcel so you can number them and load them onto the van in numerical order.

That's not what it's meant for though.

It also gives an option to split the van into zones but I don't know anyone who bothers with zones as its easier just to do rows across the van with low numbers near the rear doors and highest numbers at the bulkhead as obviously those will be the last drops.

That's literally putting them in zones so why not let the PDA do the work for you?

Four zones A to D. I really don't see how dividing the floorspace of the van into 4 sections helps. The numbers still run the same. How is that more useful than having the first dp's at the back and the last ones at the front bulkhead, then just grabbing a few at a time from the back and keeping them on the pasenger seat.

How about you write a nice helpful begginers guide telling me and all the new entrants how to use the van loading tool properly.

This thread reminds me of a bloke at my place who wanders over, looks at my 5.5 hour route and tells me he could do it in 2 hours and wouldn't use a pda to plan his route. He doesn't grasp that I've got stuff for a big wide area not one densely packed duty that hes done for 20 years

[Jonathan Alsatian]

It’s a waste of time handling them indoors and again whilst loading the van, much better and far quicker doing it as u load the van.

why wouldn’t you.

Hanging it out so they can either do less parcels or book more docket at a guess.

We can't just bring back what we don't fancy delivering like you lot do with non-tracked mail. We have to stay out until its all delivered because its all tracked. Basically we have enforced overtime which most of us don't want to do. I'd rather finish on time. But if I start bringing loads back they'll start looking for ways to manage me out of the business. No such thing as cutting off in dpr land.

And on the odd occasion I do finish early they send me out to deliver bags of mail that the legacy posties can't be arsed to do