If that's true how come it's most of the blue shirts struggling in my DO even to the extent they are quitting for similar paid jobs elsewhere?oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!Blue shirts have never had to contend with the level of workload that Red Shirts deal with daily. Irrefutable fact.
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it was
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TopperGas
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voodou7628
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You will find that most of the senior staff are doing things by the book start time finish time doing the minimum amount of work correctly and safely the jobs easy that way. mean while new staff making a complete mess of things starting early working past there time stressing out letting themselves be intimated by managers the real reason senior staff are leaving is job is not worth doing now for the money so easy to get a mon to Fri job for same money
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: CWU:Rebuilding Royal Mail – A step towards a better future – The CWU Postal Executive has unanimously endorsed Rebuilding Royal Mail part two
Firms walks have been way quieter since Covid. When we'd run the wave 2 mail on the machines before Covid, all the firms walks would have at least 1 box of mail, a few two, and the odd one three boxes. Now they can be easily bundled with a elastic band, very rarely do they need their own box.oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!Blue shirts have never had to contend with the level of workload that Red Shirts deal with daily. Irrefutable fact.
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it was
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TopperGas
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Business mail's dead, if you've staff WFH you don't want to mess about sending them mail, however Tracked must be growing 10%+ year on year, this week was like peak so god knows what "prime week" and peak will feel like.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 22:46Firms walks have been way quieter since Covid. When we'd run the wave 2 mail on the machines before Covid, all the firms walks would have at least 1 box of mail, a few two, and the odd one three boxes. Now they can be easily bundled with a elastic band, very rarely do they need their own box.oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!Blue shirts have never had to contend with the level of workload that Red Shirts deal with daily. Irrefutable fact.
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it was
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TopperGas
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With so many controls. SISO, Trimble, FTD stats, it's far harder now not to make a mess of things than it was just a year or two ago. You even got your wrists slap it your 5 mins late with a Special Delivery, that's why experienced staff are leaving my DO.voodou7628 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 21:49You will find that most of the senior staff are doing things by the book start time finish time doing the minimum amount of work correctly and safely the jobs easy that way. mean while new staff making a complete mess of things starting early working past there time stressing out letting themselves be intimated by managers the real reason senior staff are leaving is job is not worth doing now for the money so easy to get a mon to Fri job for same money
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Binsey
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Re: CWU:Rebuilding Royal Mail – A step towards a better future – The CWU Postal Executive has unanimously endorsed Rebuilding Royal Mail part two
If a manager is falsely claiming you are not working hard enough when you are - go off with stress, let them suffer with 1 less worker and see how they like it when you aren't there. They will have to waste more time doing a back-to-work meeting and explaining themselves to you and a CWU rep as to why they are falsely accusing you of not working hard enough.
Managers are bullies, they do this even though they know you work hard enough because they want you to be on your toes, rushing around or staying out on overtime, or even better - put you in a position where you go over your time but feel you can't even book overtime as you don't want further arguments....
This thing the CWU has written is titled 'Rebuilding Royal Mail - A step towards a better future'......
bull****, nothing will change. The worst thing about this company is the bullying, lying management. I don't even care about the wage. I want fair and reasonable management, but that's never going to happen. This company will forever be a toxic employer.
Here Endth the 1st Lesson.
Managers are bullies, they do this even though they know you work hard enough because they want you to be on your toes, rushing around or staying out on overtime, or even better - put you in a position where you go over your time but feel you can't even book overtime as you don't want further arguments....
This thing the CWU has written is titled 'Rebuilding Royal Mail - A step towards a better future'......
bull****, nothing will change. The worst thing about this company is the bullying, lying management. I don't even care about the wage. I want fair and reasonable management, but that's never going to happen. This company will forever be a toxic employer.
Here Endth the 1st Lesson.
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We have had quite a few senior staff leave our office recently and the reason was the change in start finish times especially the Saturday times.TopperGas wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 23:04With so many controls. SISO, Trimble, FTD stats, it's far harder now not to make a mess of things than it was just a year or two ago. You even got your wrists slap it your 5 mins late with a Special Delivery, that's why experienced staff are leaving my DO.voodou7628 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 21:49You will find that most of the senior staff are doing things by the book start time finish time doing the minimum amount of work correctly and safely the jobs easy that way. mean while new staff making a complete mess of things starting early working past there time stressing out letting themselves be intimated by managers the real reason senior staff are leaving is job is not worth doing now for the money so easy to get a mon to Fri job for same money
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I would say we used to shift daily an amount of mail that would currently require my walk to sit in the frame for a week. 6 days into 1: that's pretty consistent with a 70% fall of since 2006. On the flipside, packets are up 300% since then.oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it was
The machine stops.
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SpacePhoenix
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Mail volumes dropped a hell of a lot when the GDPR regs kicked in.Mr Rush wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 16:42I would say we used to shift daily an amount of mail that would currently require my walk to sit in the frame for a week. 6 days into 1: that's pretty consistent with a 70% fall of since 2006. On the flipside, packets are up 300% since then.oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it was
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Rommagic
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Xmas weeks mail.delivered six days a week?
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TopperGas
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Plus stuffing a handful of mail though a letterbox is a damn sight quicker than finding the correct parcel in the van, scanning the parcel, knocking the door twice then waiting whilst the customer decides to walk to the front door, putting the dog in another room, before finding the right key to open as if they haven't used their front door for weeks.Mr Rush wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 16:42I would say we used to shift daily an amount of mail that would currently require my walk to sit in the frame for a week. 6 days into 1: that's pretty consistent with a 70% fall of since 2006. On the flipside, packets are up 300% since then.oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it was
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kazardaimenu
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You forgot the part where they go upstairs to get the key after finding out the door is lockedTopperGas wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 17:39Plus stuffing a handful of mail though a letterbox is a damn sight quicker than finding the correct parcel in the van, scanning the parcel, knocking the door twice then waiting whilst the customer decides to walk to the front door, putting the dog in another room, before finding the right key to open as if they haven't used their front door for weeks.Mr Rush wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 16:42I would say we used to shift daily an amount of mail that would currently require my walk to sit in the frame for a week. 6 days into 1: that's pretty consistent with a 70% fall of since 2006. On the flipside, packets are up 300% since then.oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it was
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qwerty2
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What are you 2 on about!kazardaimenu wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 17:52You forgot the part where they go upstairs to get the key after finding out the door is lockedTopperGas wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 17:39Plus stuffing a handful of mail though a letterbox is a damn sight quicker than finding the correct parcel in the van, scanning the parcel, knocking the door twice then waiting whilst the customer decides to walk to the front door, putting the dog in another room, before finding the right key to open as if they haven't used their front door for weeks.Mr Rush wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 16:42I would say we used to shift daily an amount of mail that would currently require my walk to sit in the frame for a week. 6 days into 1: that's pretty consistent with a 70% fall of since 2006. On the flipside, packets are up 300% since then.oypostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:22Cobblers. Firms used to get sacks full of mail rather than just the odd letter and considerably more parcels than now. Mail generally was much busier. I'm sure blue shirts will remember all the Readers Digest rubbish we used to get and remember good old Sky mags !!
What is true is that the job has changed with scan this , scan this, collect this, collect that but it was never as easy as you seem to think it wasit’s certainly an interaction you don’t get posting letters.
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kazardaimenu
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Just saying there’s way more parcels these days so we have to deal with the nonsense that goes along with delivering parcels.
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WHAT'S YOUR HOURLY RATE?Smoothbackground wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 18:22Feel free!HarrySutton111 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 17:56Absolute bullshit
You are just a complete stirrer
I've never heard anyone bar you mention blue shirt mentality, I honestly find you a disgrace and a s**t stirring bully, I've had enough of your s**t and lies, how dare you say folk didn't work hard before you came along, proves you know nothing, good mind to report you to r.m. about your behaviour