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"Leader" Experiences
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TopperGas
- Posts: 3285
- Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
Sounds like the official title should be "mug" if they are doing all that on a basic postie's salary.
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Frankie15
- Posts: 200
- Joined: 17 Oct 2019, 16:48
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
Why would anyone want to do all those things though is beyond me
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Jaggs
- Posts: 134
- Joined: 18 Jan 2011, 11:18
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.SillySinStorm wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 09:40Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.
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postslippete
- Posts: 4101
- Joined: 14 Jul 2014, 16:27
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
Jaggs wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 19:44
ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.
So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.
Yeah, in all honesty I didn't actually know what that was! But if they are doing a managers role then they should be looking at actually applying for a managers role as they clearly have some experience of it.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Rumple
- Posts: 428
- Joined: 20 Nov 2013, 10:45
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
What is your current official job title?SillySinStorm wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 10:19I should have made it a bit clearer that i wanted the experiences of other leaders. The title and mention in the main body clearly wasn't enough for you. I'll use pictures and crayons next time![]()
To answer your question, i'm no longer an OPG, but do delivery when the need arises. I'd probably do your own walk more efficiently and with no complaints![]()
Have a great weekend.
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TopperGas
- Posts: 3285
- Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
"FDS" in the context of Royal Mail typically refers to Fletcher Data Services Ltd, an approved data capture and indexer for Royal Mail since 1996."
Sounds like the system managers use to track the Tracked etc delivery items?
Sounds like the system managers use to track the Tracked etc delivery items?
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ted_e_bear
- Posts: 3933
- Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
- Gender: Male
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Woody84
- Posts: 186
- Joined: 02 Nov 2024, 12:02
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
What is OSG and are you entitled to the £ if you cover the full time collections person once a week?
I’m guessing no
I’m guessing no
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BELIAL
- Posts: 6758
- Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 17:33
- Gender: Female
- Location: Nowhere
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k979aaa
- Posts: 12578
- Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
- Gender: Male
- Location: THE NORTH
Re: "Leader" Experiences
So you take responsibility and when the s**t hit's the fan which it will for nothing smart move.
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Barnacle
- Posts: 2772
- Joined: 13 Dec 2022, 16:58
- Gender: Female
- Location: Earth
Re: "Leader" Experiences
Exactly.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 18:04Good questionClappedoutpostie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 17:42If your doing all this what the hell are your “managers” doing all day?![]()
Me neither sounds like a cross between former Phg/trainee manager/workplace coach/managers pet office brown noser etc.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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SillySinStorm
- Posts: 32
- Joined: 22 Nov 2015, 09:36
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
Thanks for the in-depth reply.Jaggs wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 19:44ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.SillySinStorm wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 09:40Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.
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Barnacle
- Posts: 2772
- Joined: 13 Dec 2022, 16:58
- Gender: Female
- Location: Earth
Re: "Leader" Experiences
If you want to be paid extra for being the managers dog’s body, apply to be a work coach or a cover manager. Those are the proper routes.SillySinStorm wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 09:40Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
They won’t pay you extra if you are willingly doing it for free. Being a brown nose will not get you promoted. You have to apply for the job.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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SillySinStorm
- Posts: 32
- Joined: 22 Nov 2015, 09:36
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
There really are quite a few sad old men on here. Is everything okay at home? Brown nose indeed. Grow up.Barnacle wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025, 07:12If you want to be paid extra for being the managers dog’s body, apply to be a work coach or a cover manager. Those are the proper routes.SillySinStorm wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 09:40Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
They won’t pay you extra if you are willingly doing it for free. Being a brown nose will not get you promoted. You have to apply for the job.
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SillySinStorm
- Posts: 32
- Joined: 22 Nov 2015, 09:36
- Gender: Male
Re: "Leader" Experiences
What is OSG, exactly?Jaggs wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 19:44ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.SillySinStorm wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 09:40Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.