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Negotiations updates gone quiet

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Rommagic
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It's July next Tuesday.
qwerty2
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Rommagic wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 06:09
It's July next Tuesday. :left:
Or July 2026
SWIM
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Valentina@1 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 06:03
Is that supposed to be an update?😡😡
insulting. 🙄
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norris9
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The union bang on about how we don't get paid enough and bang on about the cost of living crisis.... but they take 3 months to get us a pay rise. Get a move on. I can only afford to have beans on toast every dinner time.
Clappedoutpostie
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Post by Clappedoutpostie »

norris9 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 09:59
The union bang on about how we don't get paid enough and bang on about the cost of living crisis.... but they take 3 months to get us a pay rise. Get a move on. I can only afford to have beans on toast every dinner time.
That’s the caring thoughtful company u work for, it’s hard to negotiate with people who don’t want to negotiate with you.
blacov
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I can see it where it is going. Like mentioned before, cwu is pretty much powerless now. We will soon be reading about our pay rise from the papers and it will be the minimum wage going by X% from April. As long as we are paid by the hour, if minimum wage is enough to cover your expenses you can just clock in and out and do what you can in the allocated time and go home.

We should be now accepting that this job is gone to the wall and it will be just another crap job paying minimum wage with no future, no progression or any care for the workers. It will soon be attracting people who are unable to do anything else and just need whatever money they are offered to get by. Staff rotation will increase significantly and service is going to be non existent unless it is already at rock bottom. CWU will be a thing of the past.
This is the future. I am no longer looking forward to any updated or hoping of any meaningful pay rise. If it happens and when it happens it will change next to nothing. My only saviour would be the VR offer but that is not going to happen whatever package they would be offering.
TopperGas
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Re: Negotiations updates gone quiet

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blacov wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:05
I can see it where it is going. Like mentioned before, cwu is pretty much powerless now. We will soon be reading about our pay rise from the papers and it will be the minimum wage going by X% from April. As long as we are paid by the hour, if minimum wage is enough to cover your expenses you can just clock in and out and do what you can in the allocated time and go home.

We should be now accepting that this job is gone to the wall and it will be just another crap job paying minimum wage with no future, no progression or any care for the workers. It will soon be attracting people who are unable to do anything else and just need whatever money they are offered to get by. Staff rotation will increase significantly and service is going to be non existent unless it is already at rock bottom. CWU will be a thing of the past.
This is the future. I am no longer looking forward to any updated or hoping of any meaningful pay rise. If it happens and when it happens it will change next to nothing. My only saviour would be the VR offer but that is not going to happen whatever package they would be offering.
There's nothing stopping you leaving for another job?
blacov
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Re: Negotiations updates gone quiet

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TopperGas wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:08
blacov wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:05
I can see it where it is going. Like mentioned before, cwu is pretty much powerless now. We will soon be reading about our pay rise from the papers and it will be the minimum wage going by X% from April. As long as we are paid by the hour, if minimum wage is enough to cover your expenses you can just clock in and out and do what you can in the allocated time and go home.

We should be now accepting that this job is gone to the wall and it will be just another crap job paying minimum wage with no future, no progression or any care for the workers. It will soon be attracting people who are unable to do anything else and just need whatever money they are offered to get by. Staff rotation will increase significantly and service is going to be non existent unless it is already at rock bottom. CWU will be a thing of the past.
This is the future. I am no longer looking forward to any updated or hoping of any meaningful pay rise. If it happens and when it happens it will change next to nothing. My only saviour would be the VR offer but that is not going to happen whatever package they would be offering.
There's nothing stopping you leaving for another job?
You are 100% correct and sadly I would likely leave for free but it would be nice to receive a bit of cash before I slam the door behind me, wouldn't it?
TopperGas
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blacov wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:10
TopperGas wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:08
blacov wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:05
I can see it where it is going. Like mentioned before, cwu is pretty much powerless now. We will soon be reading about our pay rise from the papers and it will be the minimum wage going by X% from April. As long as we are paid by the hour, if minimum wage is enough to cover your expenses you can just clock in and out and do what you can in the allocated time and go home.

We should be now accepting that this job is gone to the wall and it will be just another crap job paying minimum wage with no future, no progression or any care for the workers. It will soon be attracting people who are unable to do anything else and just need whatever money they are offered to get by. Staff rotation will increase significantly and service is going to be non existent unless it is already at rock bottom. CWU will be a thing of the past.
This is the future. I am no longer looking forward to any updated or hoping of any meaningful pay rise. If it happens and when it happens it will change next to nothing. My only saviour would be the VR offer but that is not going to happen whatever package they would be offering.
There's nothing stopping you leaving for another job?
You are 100% correct and sadly I would likely leave for free but it would be nice to receive a bit of cash before I slam the door behind me, wouldn't it?
We're already been told there'll be no redundancies in our DO, which seems a bit surprising given that for every 4 posties role they will be reduced to just 3 roles later this year.
blacov
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TopperGas wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:18
blacov wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:10
TopperGas wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:08
blacov wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:05
I can see it where it is going. Like mentioned before, cwu is pretty much powerless now. We will soon be reading about our pay rise from the papers and it will be the minimum wage going by X% from April. As long as we are paid by the hour, if minimum wage is enough to cover your expenses you can just clock in and out and do what you can in the allocated time and go home.

We should be now accepting that this job is gone to the wall and it will be just another crap job paying minimum wage with no future, no progression or any care for the workers. It will soon be attracting people who are unable to do anything else and just need whatever money they are offered to get by. Staff rotation will increase significantly and service is going to be non existent unless it is already at rock bottom. CWU will be a thing of the past.
This is the future. I am no longer looking forward to any updated or hoping of any meaningful pay rise. If it happens and when it happens it will change next to nothing. My only saviour would be the VR offer but that is not going to happen whatever package they would be offering.
There's nothing stopping you leaving for another job?
You are 100% correct and sadly I would likely leave for free but it would be nice to receive a bit of cash before I slam the door behind me, wouldn't it?
We're already been told there'll be no redundancies in our DO, which seems a bit surprising given that for every 4 posties role they will be reduced to just 3 roles later this year.
My DO is gone quiet on this but if there will be any offers, I expect a stampede. Realistically speaking there will be none, they know we will start leaving for free or retire early. We will be replaced with people on inferior terms.
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Negotiations updates gone quiet

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blacov wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:05
I can see it where it is going. Like mentioned before, cwu is pretty much powerless now. We will soon be reading about our pay rise from the papers and it will be the minimum wage going by X% from April. As long as we are paid by the hour, if minimum wage is enough to cover your expenses you can just clock in and out and do what you can in the allocated time and go home.

We should be now accepting that this job is gone to the wall and it will be just another crap job paying minimum wage with no future, no progression or any care for the workers. It will soon be attracting people who are unable to do anything else and just need whatever money they are offered to get by. Staff rotation will increase significantly and service is going to be non existent unless it is already at rock bottom. CWU will be a thing of the past.
This is the future. I am no longer looking forward to any updated or hoping of any meaningful pay rise. If it happens and when it happens it will change next to nothing. My only saviour would be the VR offer but that is not going to happen whatever package they would be offering.
Which was always RM's plan even before we were privatized - new owner will just go into overdrive...we all know it we all see it
mjd24
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SPECIALTRACKED wrote:
23 Jun 2025, 19:53
postman2014 wrote:
22 Jun 2025, 21:07
Everyone should just temporarily cancel their union payments until they start communicating will their members! They seem to forget who actually pays them! Cancelled my payments and they won't be getting another penny until everything is sorted. If we all did the same they would buckle after a week!
Already have, £10 a month is mini pay rise that’s how bad it’s got
So is that like a protest thing, and you're intending to rejoin at some point soon? Seems rather off if people are leaving the union permanently.
geordieboy123
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SMS1969 wrote:
22 Jun 2025, 21:35
Unfortunately those at the top hold utter contempt for us and the union can do nothing about it. Don’t expect anything to be announced anytime soon. The silence is deafening.
A full update on all USO trial sites at 17.00 CWU Live with Tony Bouch and local reps and they will take questions.
geordieboy123
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geordieboy123 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 19:12
SMS1969 wrote:
22 Jun 2025, 21:35
Unfortunately those at the top hold utter contempt for us and the union can do nothing about it. Don’t expect anything to be announced anytime soon. The silence is deafening.
A full update on all USO trial sites at 17.00 CWU Live with Tony Bouch and local reps and they will take questions.
Sorry it’s on Thursday
SpacePhoenix
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TopperGas wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:18
We're already been told there'll be no redundancies in our DO, which seems a bit surprising given that for every 4 posties role they will be reduced to just 3 roles later this year.
Could RM be going to declare the excess staff as supernumerary and move them to DOs which are short on staff?