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Royal Mail Group negotiations Update 13/06/2025

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Royal Mail Group negotiations Update 13/06/2025

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Royal Mail Group negotiations

Dear colleagues

We are writing to confirm that as of this week EP Group are now formally engaged in the negotiations between Royal Mail Group and the CWU.

This means we are working closer to deliver on all of the commitments provided by the EP Group / CWU agreement of December 2024.

We recognise and fully understand the level of interest in the outcome and crucially when that will be.

The EP Group / CWU agreement committed to several key agreements being reached within 3 (September) or 6 (December) months post transaction. All parties agree there is an absolute need to accelerate this timeframe where possible - particularly around pay equalising new entrants' terms and conditions.

Getting the right agreement is more important than getting a quick agreement. EP Group became the owners of Royal Mail Group on June 2nd. We have been working together at pace ever since.

Turning around the chaos created by the previous Board and senior leadership will not happen overnight, but we are confident this agreement will lead to a fundamental change in the whole ethos of Royal Mail Group.

We can confirm the following:
  • * Any pay settlement reached will be backdated to April 1st 2025.
  • * Talks are continuing.
  • * On USO reform we have had a good discussion and are awaiting a response from EP Group on a more pragmatic way of moving this forward.
  • * We will deliver an extensive package of communications as soon as an agreement is reached.
Martin Walsh
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

Dave Ward
General Secretary
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I’m out 👋
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What does formally engaged mean?
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Grads75 wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 14:44
What does formally engaged mean?
I take it as they have just officially started talks.
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Cwu used words like "intense" talks. now formally ??
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Crazy to think this mob are negotiating on our behalf 😱
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Valentina@1 wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 14:43
I’m out 👋
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Charlatans of the highest order every single one of them. f***ing clowns.
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We are being taken for a ride. We have no teeth because the company knows as long as Dave Ward, Martin Walsh et al are running the show the OPGs will not strike. Zero faith in them to deliver and this just adds fuel to the flames.

How is it we were ready for a deal by the 5th June and now all of a sudden its formal talks have just begun? Sorry, f***ing what? What has been going on for the last 6 months. What have this lot been doing?

How the f**k do we remove these clowns?
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Ren Hoëk wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 15:02
We are being taken for a ride. We have no teeth because the company knows as long as Dave Ward, Martin Walsh et al are running the show the OPGs will not strike. Zero faith in them to deliver and this just adds fuel to the flames.

How is it we were ready for a deal by the 5th June and now all of a sudden its formal talks have just begun? Sorry, f***ing what? What has been going on for the last 6 months. What have this lot been doing?

How the f**k do we remove these clowns?
EP group run rings round the likes of Walsh and co 💯
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Valentina@1 wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 15:08

EP group run rings round the likes of Walsh and co 💯
They really are. Maybe always have. By the time December rolls around they will have implemented what ever change they wanted and we will have nothing to bargain with. The company are clearly stalling for time because they know they can. This lot are selling us out to maintain their own positions. They need to do what is right and resign. That goes for anyone who has backed and defended them as that clearly calls into question their judgement as well.
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Ren Hoëk wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 15:11
Valentina@1 wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 15:08

EP group run rings round the likes of Walsh and co 💯
They really are. Maybe always have. By the time December rolls around they will have implemented what ever change they wanted and we will have nothing to bargain with. The company are clearly stalling for time because they know they can. This lot are selling us out to maintain their own positions. They need to do what is right and resign. That goes for anyone who has backed and defended them as that clearly calls into question their judgement as well.
Agreed, it's almost comical now.
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Dave Ward looked into a camera last Friday and said a full agreement would probably be reached “within the next week” and this was following weeks of failed deadlines. Now all of a sudden it’s between September and December, the new uso will be in full swing by then and we were promised a full proper agreement before this would be rolled out. Honestly why have Dave and Martin not resigned? Kretinsky must be rubbing his hands negotiating with these two knowing they don’t have the backing of the members. f***ing disgrace.
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toonshola wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 15:17
Dave Ward looked into a camera last Friday and said a full agreement would probably be reached “within the next week” and this was following weeks of failed deadlines. Now all of a sudden it’s between September and December, the new uso will be in full swing by then and we were promised a full proper agreement before this would be rolled out. Honestly why have Dave and Martin not resigned? Kretinsky must be rubbing his hands negotiating with these two knowing they don’t have the backing of the members. f***ing disgrace.
Exactly. So they have either had their pants pulled down which to me means they should resign as they are not fit to deal with these people or they have been lying to us this whole time. In which case, they should resign.
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POSTMAN wrote:
13 Jun 2025, 14:36
Royal Mail Group negotiations

Dear colleagues

We are writing to confirm that as of this week EP Group are now formally engaged in the negotiations between Royal Mail Group and the CWU.

This means we are working closer to deliver on all of the commitments provided by the EP Group / CWU agreement of December 2024.

We recognise and fully understand the level of interest in the outcome and crucially when that will be.

The EP Group / CWU agreement committed to several key agreements being reached within 3 (September) or 6 (December) months post transaction. All parties agree there is an absolute need to accelerate this timeframe where possible - particularly around pay equalising new entrants' terms and conditions.

Getting the right agreement is more important than getting a quick agreement. EP Group became the owners of Royal Mail Group on June 2nd. We have been working together at pace ever since.

Turning around the chaos created by the previous Board and senior leadership will not happen overnight, but we are confident this agreement will lead to a fundamental change in the whole ethos of Royal Mail Group.

We can confirm the following:
  • * Any pay settlement reached will be backdated to April 1st 2025.
  • * Talks are continuing.
  • * On USO reform we have had a good discussion and are awaiting a response from EP Group on a more pragmatic way of moving this forward.
  • * We will deliver an extensive package of communications as soon as an agreement is reached.
Martin Walsh
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

Dave Ward
General Secretary
Kicking the can down the road.So the update we’ve been waiting weeks for is…an agreement possibly between September-December?.What a farce, we need a pay rise now!!