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LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

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GRS
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

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qwerty2 wrote:
05 Jun 2025, 20:34
GRS wrote:
05 Jun 2025, 19:41
hewittinspain wrote:
05 Jun 2025, 16:56
So is this letter from Ofcom to the chief executive fake then?
They are clearly stating that nothing has been decided and it's up to Ofcom. This was dated 2 days ago.
None of this should be implemented further than the trial/pilot offices until they get the go ahead which they haven't.
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Hopefully it’s genuine. Be great to see all this fall flat if Ofcom turn it down😆
It's real
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/post/royal-mail
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Post by Mr Rush »

That Ofcom reponse is mostly just annoyance that their phone has been ringing off the hook since these letters went out. Now they have to stay in the office till five. Plenty more disgruntled callers-to-be out there whose USO letters have yet to leave the frame!
The machine stops.
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by hans solo »

AYR. USO pilot

Since pilot started over month ago cleared on 1 occasion
With the use of o-time and extra staff on a TUE
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
D2D not being prepped delivered within time spec
Being rolled on to following week(s) and with those following weeks D2D added
Frames all have doubled slots no room to prep mail all jammed in
Bags on delivery too heavy with mail no room for packets to be delivered with mail
More pressure on drivers
1st class mail and tracked failing every day
2nd class failing every day
Sat 1st class mail increasing in volume unable to clear
Packets unable to clear
Mental health issues due to unachievale workloads
And pressures to try and complete
3 staff have walked out in tears
1 staff asking for hours to be reduced to PT cant cope with demands
Duty of care ????
RM h&s have visited as well as senior cwu officials
Nothing done
This will be rolled out everywhere over summer
Re of ofcom input they as well as us being disregarded
And this is light time of year
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by Barnacle »

hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
AYR. USO pilot

Since pilot started over month ago cleared on 1 occasion
With the use of o-time and extra staff on a TUE
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
D2D not being prepped delivered within time spec
Being rolled on to following week(s) and with those following weeks D2D added
Frames all have doubled slots no room to prep mail all jammed in
Bags on delivery too heavy with mail no room for packets to be delivered with mail
More pressure on drivers
1st class mail and tracked failing every day
2nd class failing every day
Sat 1st class mail increasing in volume unable to clear
Packets unable to clear
Mental health issues due to unachievale workloads
And pressures to try and complete
3 staff have walked out in tears
1 staff asking for hours to be reduced to PT cant cope with demands
Duty of care ????
RM h&s have visited as well as senior cwu officials
Nothing done
This will be rolled out everywhere over summer
Re of ofcom input they as well as us being disregarded
And this is light time of year
This has to be stopped. The whole point of having a trial is to find out if an idea works. This clearly doesn’t work.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

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hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
I find that very hard to believe. On a normal day if you exclude any bulk postings getting released by the DTS after hitting the time limit, across all the batches on my CSS I think there's only about 2 or maybe 3 walks which will get 3 trays of mech (both waves combined). Even when the USO changes kick in, you won't really get much of an increase as the 5 day limit still applies and any 2C for a DP that has a 1C item will still be released. No changes to the DSA either. Whatever is released by the machine is due for delivery.
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Post by Barnacle »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:17
hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
I find that very hard to believe. On a normal day if you exclude any bulk postings getting released by the DTS after hitting the time limit, across all the batches on my CSS I think there's only about 2 or maybe 3 walks which will get 3 trays of mech (both waves combined). Even when the USO changes kick in, you won't really get much of an increase as the 5 day limit still applies and any 2C for a DP that has a 1C item will still be released. No changes to the DSA either. Whatever is released by the machine is due for delivery.
The pilot method condenses several walks. So it isn’t one standard walk suddenly receiving 3 trays, it’s a condensed version.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Post by qwerty2 »

hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
AYR. USO pilot

Since pilot started over month ago cleared on 1 occasion
With the use of o-time and extra staff on a TUE
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
D2D not being prepped delivered within time spec
Being rolled on to following week(s) and with those following weeks D2D added
Frames all have doubled slots no room to prep mail all jammed in
Bags on delivery too heavy with mail no room for packets to be delivered with mail
More pressure on drivers
1st class mail and tracked failing every day
2nd class failing every day
Sat 1st class mail increasing in volume unable to clear
Packets unable to clear
Mental health issues due to unachievale workloads
And pressures to try and complete
3 staff have walked out in tears
1 staff asking for hours to be reduced to PT cant cope with demands
Duty of care ????
RM h&s have visited as well as senior cwu officials
Nothing done
This will be rolled out everywhere over summer
Re of ofcom input they as well as us being disregarded
And this is light time of year
What are non drivers doing on Saturdays?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Barnacle wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:17
hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
I find that very hard to believe. On a normal day if you exclude any bulk postings getting released by the DTS after hitting the time limit, across all the batches on my CSS I think there's only about 2 or maybe 3 walks which will get 3 trays of mech (both waves combined). Even when the USO changes kick in, you won't really get much of an increase as the 5 day limit still applies and any 2C for a DP that has a 1C item will still be released. No changes to the DSA either. Whatever is released by the machine is due for delivery.
The pilot method condenses several walks. So it isn’t one standard walk suddenly receiving 3 trays, it’s a condensed version.
How many walks are combined into each "new walk"?
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by Barnacle »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 12:09
Barnacle wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:17
hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
I find that very hard to believe. On a normal day if you exclude any bulk postings getting released by the DTS after hitting the time limit, across all the batches on my CSS I think there's only about 2 or maybe 3 walks which will get 3 trays of mech (both waves combined). Even when the USO changes kick in, you won't really get much of an increase as the 5 day limit still applies and any 2C for a DP that has a 1C item will still be released. No changes to the DSA either. Whatever is released by the machine is due for delivery.
The pilot method condenses several walks. So it isn’t one standard walk suddenly receiving 3 trays, it’s a condensed version.
How many walks are combined into each "new walk"?
Depends on the office because some have walks with a low number of drops on each walk as their starting point, but another office could have 800 drops or more per walk. So if you take four or five walks and make them three walks, you have instantly increased the mech for each.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Post by toonshola »

hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
AYR. USO pilot

Since pilot started over month ago cleared on 1 occasion
With the use of o-time and extra staff on a TUE
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
D2D not being prepped delivered within time spec
Being rolled on to following week(s) and with those following weeks D2D added
Frames all have doubled slots no room to prep mail all jammed in
Bags on delivery too heavy with mail no room for packets to be delivered with mail
More pressure on drivers
1st class mail and tracked failing every day
2nd class failing every day
Sat 1st class mail increasing in volume unable to clear
Packets unable to clear
Mental health issues due to unachievale workloads
And pressures to try and complete
3 staff have walked out in tears
1 staff asking for hours to be reduced to PT cant cope with demands
Duty of care ????
RM h&s have visited as well as senior cwu officials
Nothing done
This will be rolled out everywhere over summer
Re of ofcom input they as well as us being disregarded
And this is light time of year
But but but this can’t be true, I watched Martin Walsh glumly look into the camera on Friday and say some of the pilots have landed successfully. Then Ward followed up by saying stuff written online is just “keyboard warriors” and that people he meets in the real world are very polite to him and treat him like the king he is in his own mind.
Now either these two are a pair of complete sell out frauds gliding towards their bloated pensions or people are constantly pretending that they work in the trial offices and are posting about what a s**t show it all is for a laugh on every social media platform form. I know which one I think is more likely….
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Post by Rommagic »

Who does the door2doors when four or more?.
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Post by hans solo »

Barnacle wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 12:28
SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 12:09
Barnacle wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:17
hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
I find that very hard to believe. On a normal day if you exclude any bulk postings getting released by the DTS after hitting the time limit, across all the batches on my CSS I think there's only about 2 or maybe 3 walks which will get 3 trays of mech (both waves combined). Even when the USO changes kick in, you won't really get much of an increase as the 5 day limit still applies and any 2C for a DP that has a 1C item will still be released. No changes to the DSA either. Whatever is released by the machine is due for delivery.
The pilot method condenses several walks. So it isn’t one standard walk suddenly receiving 3 trays, it’s a condensed version.
How many walks are combined into each "new walk"?
Depends on the office because some have walks with a low number of drops on each walk as their starting point, but another office could have 800 drops or more per walk. So if you take four or five walks and make them three walks, you have instantly increased the mech for each.
I can assure you it is 3 mech trays
Your mc,s havnt got a clue how to run the system
Its chaos
I got info from area rep and local reps who attended meetings at said DO
I have the original transcript
I did say i would post info when i could
CWU at national level are hiding facts from members
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Post by jessicarabbit »

But...but ..but...

You're getting an extra Saturday off though surely
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by Barnacle »

hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 18:28
Barnacle wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 12:28
SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 12:09
Barnacle wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:17
hans solo wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 10:32
3 mech trays every day for core duties
(Where has all this mail come from )
I find that very hard to believe. On a normal day if you exclude any bulk postings getting released by the DTS after hitting the time limit, across all the batches on my CSS I think there's only about 2 or maybe 3 walks which will get 3 trays of mech (both waves combined). Even when the USO changes kick in, you won't really get much of an increase as the 5 day limit still applies and any 2C for a DP that has a 1C item will still be released. No changes to the DSA either. Whatever is released by the machine is due for delivery.
The pilot method condenses several walks. So it isn’t one standard walk suddenly receiving 3 trays, it’s a condensed version.
How many walks are combined into each "new walk"?
Depends on the office because some have walks with a low number of drops on each walk as their starting point, but another office could have 800 drops or more per walk. So if you take four or five walks and make them three walks, you have instantly increased the mech for each.
I can assure you it is 3 mech trays
Your mc,s havnt got a clue how to run the system
Its chaos
I got info from area rep and local reps who attended meetings at said DO
I have the original transcript
I did say i would post info when i could
CWU at national level are hiding facts from members
I absolutely believe you.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by hans solo »

Get martin to dispute the facts he cant
They know exactly whats happening