The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Nonsense
New entrants took the job knowing that there was Sunday working
We never.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
I'll tell you exactly the same. Either prove me wrong or mind your own business.
I'll do as I please thanks Mr Smart.
Just put the fool on foe.this site is much better without having to read pwrfc posts just put them on foe list.
Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I think Chris's posts have a certain comedic value to them.
I like the way he keeps digging and making himself look more and more stupid.
Still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Do you think that Sunday working for those that don’t have it in their contract is better than what they have now?
Plus the millions spent electrifying our fleet when there's no real need to rush, likewise did we really need a uniform redesign, leading to whole DO's binning their old uniforms?
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They didn’t go far enough with the electrifying of the fleet.
They should have solar panels on every office in the country and we should all be in electric vans and they’d be saving millions by now.
I'll tell you exactly the same. Either prove me wrong or mind your own business.
I'll do as I please thanks Mr Smart.
Just put the fool on foe.this site is much better without having to read pwrfc posts just put them on foe list.
Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I think Chris's posts have a certain comedic value to them.
I like the way he keeps digging and making himself look more and more stupid.
Still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
There is nothing to prove or disprove, you just waffle with no substance, it’s your opinion and that’s fine but it doesn’t make what you spout correct.
I'll tell you exactly the same. Either prove me wrong or mind your own business.
I'll do as I please thanks Mr Smart.
Just put the fool on foe.this site is much better without having to read pwrfc posts just put them on foe list.
Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I think Chris's posts have a certain comedic value to them.
I like the way he keeps digging and making himself look more and more stupid.
Still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
There is nothing to prove or disprove, you just waffle with no substance, it’s your opinion and that’s fine but it doesn’t make what you spout correct.
Yet another CWU loyalist doing nothing to prove me wrong. Jog on.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Nonsense
New entrants took the job knowing that there was Sunday working
We never.
There were contracts issued that require workers to attend every Sunday. However recently the contract has become 5 over 7 days, not stating which 5 days. Workers are finding that this has become 6 over 7 because Monday to Saturdays can't be covered. Its simply not true that it was expressly stated that Sunday working was a requirement not 6 days out of 7. Remember we are only as strong as our weakest link.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Do you think that Sunday working for those that don’t have it in their contract is better than what they have now?
What's currently happening with the CWU's blessing is contracts state 5 working days out of 7. It doesn't say what days. Some contracts were issued stating Sunday was a normal working day, fixed. However then Monday and Tuesday couldn't be covered. Workers are now finding they are working 6 out of 7 days.
If we don't stop the CWU Sunday will become compulsory overtime. There are much better ways to accommodate Sunday working like normalising the day and increasing rest days. One of the CWU loyalist above is touting for Sundays to be compulsory overtime. Beware.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Nonsense
New entrants took the job knowing that there was Sunday working
We never.
There were contracts issued that require workers to attend every Sunday. However recently the contract has become 5 over 7 days, not stating which 5 days. Workers are finding that this has become 6 over 7 because Monday to Saturdays can't be covered. Its simply not true that it was expressly stated that Sunday working was a requirement not 6 days out of 7. Remember we are only as strong as our weakest link.
Not even the numpties still in the union are going to vote on a pay rise including working Sundays
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Do you think that Sunday working for those that don’t have it in their contract is better than what they have now?
What's currently happening with the CWU's blessing is contracts state 5 working days out of 7. It doesn't say what days. Some contracts were issued stating Sunday was a normal working day, fixed. However then Monday and Tuesday couldn't be covered. Workers are now finding they are working 6 out of 7 days.
If we don't stop the CWU Sunday will become compulsory overtime. There are much better ways to accommodate Sunday working like normalising the day and increasing rest days. One of the CWU loyalist above is touting for Sundays to be compulsory overtime. Beware.
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Do you think that Sunday working for those that don’t have it in their contract is better than what they have now?
What's currently happening with the CWU's blessing is contracts state 5 working days out of 7. It doesn't say what days. Some contracts were issued stating Sunday was a normal working day, fixed. However then Monday and Tuesday couldn't be covered. Workers are now finding they are working 6 out of 7 days.
If we don't stop the CWU Sunday will become compulsory overtime. There are much better ways to accommodate Sunday working like normalising the day and increasing rest days. One of the CWU loyalist above is touting for Sundays to be compulsory overtime. Beware.
You can’t force anyone to work overtime!!!
You best have a look in your contract. Post 2010 compulsory overtime was formalised. Pre 2010 you may have an argument, highly unlikely though. Employers rule not employees. Not my position, just a fact.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Do you think that Sunday working for those that don’t have it in their contract is better than what they have now?
What's currently happening with the CWU's blessing is contracts state 5 working days out of 7. It doesn't say what days. Some contracts were issued stating Sunday was a normal working day, fixed. However then Monday and Tuesday couldn't be covered. Workers are now finding they are working 6 out of 7 days.
If we don't stop the CWU Sunday will become compulsory overtime. There are much better ways to accommodate Sunday working like normalising the day and increasing rest days. One of the CWU loyalist above is touting for Sundays to be compulsory overtime. Beware.
Sorry but they took a job that had Sunday working included and we didnt. Thats where it ends for me.
I'll never agree that we should be forced to have our contracts changed to include it out of 'fairness'
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Do you think that Sunday working for those that don’t have it in their contract is better than what they have now?
What's currently happening with the CWU's blessing is contracts state 5 working days out of 7. It doesn't say what days. Some contracts were issued stating Sunday was a normal working day, fixed. However then Monday and Tuesday couldn't be covered. Workers are now finding they are working 6 out of 7 days.
If we don't stop the CWU Sunday will become compulsory overtime. There are much better ways to accommodate Sunday working like normalising the day and increasing rest days. One of the CWU loyalist above is touting for Sundays to be compulsory overtime. Beware.
Sorry but they took a job that had Sunday working included and we didnt. Thats where it ends for me.
I'll never agree that we should be forced to have our contracts changed to include it out of 'fairness'
Many have not. The contract states 5 days over 7. If we don't stop the CWU it will be compulsory overtime. Contracts already allow for it. The CWU could negotiate Sunday rotations at a resource meeting.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
The 4% pay rise backdated to April offered so far hardly sounds groundbreaking by the EP Group? Either the CWU are treating us like idiots suggesting things will change under the EP Group, or they are idiots themselves for believing things will change.
I can't see increasing our hourly rate by around 50p an hour is going to attract or retain staff, particularly when our workload doubles later this year.
What worries me is if they’re offering 4% and virtually agreeing to equalisation of terms and conditions do they want Sunday working for all rather than new starters and volunteers only.
And so it should… but also a Sunday attendance should mean a better pay rate.
One Sunday in twelve+ for everyone is better than one in three just for new entrants. Equalising t&c’s should mean exactly that.
Do you think that Sunday working for those that don’t have it in their contract is better than what they have now?
What's currently happening with the CWU's blessing is contracts state 5 working days out of 7. It doesn't say what days. Some contracts were issued stating Sunday was a normal working day, fixed. However then Monday and Tuesday couldn't be covered. Workers are now finding they are working 6 out of 7 days.
If we don't stop the CWU Sunday will become compulsory overtime. There are much better ways to accommodate Sunday working like normalising the day and increasing rest days. One of the CWU loyalist above is touting for Sundays to be compulsory overtime. Beware.
Sorry but they took a job that had Sunday working included and we didnt. Thats where it ends for me.
I'll never agree that we should be forced to have our contracts changed to include it out of 'fairness'
Many have not. The contract states 5 days over 7. If we don't stop the CWU it will be compulsory overtime. Contracts already allow for it. The CWU could negotiate Sunday rotations at a resource meeting.
It says Sunday working. Ours dont.
Im not talking about how many Sundays they are supposed to work. Thats a seperate issue.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next