Any Good News From a Pilot Office?

[chickenwittle]

Who actually cares if it’s working ? Nothing has worked in my office since the dispute, failing duties every day . I’ve got no problem taking a pay rise and better shift patterns and still fail work , that’s Royal Mails problem not the union.

In the real world of UK employment people get a payrise every year, either in line with, or above inflation.

Incorrect.

In what way is my statement "incorrect?" lol

I worked in a job that only got a 1% payrise and it wasn't a gig job if its a private company with no union especially then they'll try to get away with the least they can do they legally have to give you anything at all ?

Exactly this , plenty of jobs out there that don’t get yearly pay rises.

[Barnacle]

Who actually cares if it’s working ? Nothing has worked in my office since the dispute, failing duties every day . I’ve got no problem taking a pay rise and better shift patterns and still fail work , that’s Royal Mails problem not the union.

In the real world of UK employment people get a payrise every year, either in line with, or above inflation.

Incorrect.

In what way is my statement "incorrect?" lol

I worked in a job that only got a 1% payrise and it wasn't a gig job if its a private company with no union especially then they'll try to get away with the least they can do they legally have to give you anything at all ?

Exactly this , plenty of jobs out there that don’t get yearly pay rises.

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

[Smoothbackground]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

[Barnacle]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.

[qwerty2]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.

Waisted 20 years of money on these pr**s

[Sean06]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.

Waisted 20 years of money on these pr**s

Have you put weight on round your waisted

[Sean06]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.

Does sound bitter to be honest.

[redlen]

CSS machines are now being removed.

How can this be possible when Parliament has yet to agree any USO changes?
Royal Mail are behaving like it is a done deal.

[Smoothbackground]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.

Does sound bitter to be honest.

I was merely being satirical when Barnacle was reminding all subs-paying members to be eternally grateful for their lot and for all that the CWU does for them.

Just to clarify — I have nothing at all to be ‘bitter’ about. Like 95% of the new-entrant cohort at my gaff, I am not a union member and so have never paid into the CWU coffers. The CWU hasn’t misled me or sold me down the river.

It is clear from other posts on here, though, that current CWU members are becoming increasingly upset and implacably hostile to their own club/union, hence Barnacle continually attempting to quell the disquiet and discontent. Perhaps ‘bitter’ is best used to describe them?

[Barnacle]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.

Does sound bitter to be honest.

I was merely being satirical when Barnacle was reminding all subs-paying members to be eternally grateful for their lot and for all that the CWU does for them.

Just to clarify — I have nothing at all to be ‘bitter’ about. Like 95% of the new-entrant cohort at my gaff, I am not a union member and so have never paid into the CWU coffers. The CWU hasn’t misled me or sold me down the river.

It is clear from other posts on here, though, that current CWU members are becoming increasingly upset and implacably hostile to their own club/union, hence Barnacle continually attempting to quell the disquiet and discontent. Perhaps ‘bitter’ is best used to describe them?

You haven’t worked at RM long enough to realise that there is no rise in disquiet - members or otherwise love to moan.

I assume you will reject any pay rise or improvements to your work contract because doing otherwise would make you a hypocrite.

Changes to the way DPR routes are scanned mean that you will no longer be allowed to go home early for being a managers pet. Good luck with that.

[twoloops]

In these pilot offices does the CWU have any input in what is being proposed?

[redlen]

All the infrastruture changes that the CWU has negotiated over the previous 10 years have been an abysmal failure.

In my own opinion the CWU name is mud on the shop floor after that last sell out agreement as the members received no benefits with the walk out losing out not only financially, but also previous terms and conditions.

New starters on these two tier inferior contracts only last a few days for doing exactly the same work as legacy staff suffering a substantial financial detriment.

Not to mention the walks are unworkable being too big to complete in daily contracted hours. One of the reasons being late getting out due to the lack of staff on the IPS. This is an issue the CWU ignores with just lip service.

It was the CWU that gave Royal Mail the legal means to this executive action by breaching the legal undertakings in the Agenda For Growth Agreement.

Royal Mail employees, including management staff have every right to be bitter.

The CWU needs to start being honest with the staff if it hopes to recruit new members and regain a positive reputation instead of this constant spin and deceit.

[Barnacle]

All the infrastruture changes that the CWU has negotiated over the previous 10 years have been an abysmal failure.

In my own opinion the CWU name is mud on the shop floor after that last sell out agreement as the members received no benefits with the walk out losing out not only financially, but also previous terms and conditions.

New starters on these two tier inferior contracts only last a few days for doing exactly the same work as legacy staff suffering a substantial financial detriment.

Not to mention the walks are unworkable being too big to complete in daily contracted hours. One of the reasons being late getting out due to the lack of staff on the IPS. This is an issue the CWU ignores with just lip service.

It was the CWU that gave Royal Mail the legal means to this executive action by breaching the legal undertakings in the Agenda For Growth Agreement.

Royal Mail employees, including management staff have every right to be bitter.

The CWU needs to start being honest with the staff if it hopes to recruit new members and regain a positive reputation instead of this constant spin and deceit.

It’s great to view it in such black and white terms but it really isn’t as simplistic as that.

You have an over reliance on data ruling everything.

Local managers ignoring agreements and lying about fails. There is no incentive for them to be honest.

And technology which does not work as it should, which all adds to the time taken to complete basic tasks.

I’m sick to death of people meaning about the last agreement that they voted for. I didn’t vote for it but have had to accept it because that is democracy.

Go and work somewhere else which does not have any union and fight your own battles. That is a choice everyone has. If you don’t like these apples, go somewhere else.

[Barnacle]

In these pilot offices does the CWU have any input in what is being proposed?

They do but RM are ignoring any negative feedback and marching ahead as if it is all working perfectly. OFCOM gave them a slap on the wrist but they are still carrying on regardless.

[redlen]

This is the problem with the CWU now speaking like management.

If you dont like it work somewhere else is hardly constructive evading the concerns of staff yet again.

it would be helpful if you responded to each one of my points of criticism with an objective retort instead of positive spin and evasion. It is all about a matter of trust.