TRIAL OFFICES

[derekm]

How are you keeping the 1st class seperate from the 2nd class?
Are you using different frames for each?
At the MC we are seperating and despatching 1st & 2nd class seperatley.

We're dispatching the outward with 1C and 2C separate but for the inward they get sorted together, before being dispatched to the DOs.

Does your MC have a DO attached?

Nope. I think that Belfast is the only MC with a DO attached.

Springburn in Glasgow has

[tramssirhc]

We are a trial office. At first rurals were left alone, apart from their routes being changed up a bit. Saturday they wud do parcels and 1st class along with a bit of a lapsed duty.

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

Are the singleton duties then assisting on other duties?

[tramssirhc]

We are a trial office. At first rurals were left alone, apart from their routes being changed up a bit. Saturday they wud do parcels and 1st class along with a bit of a lapsed duty.

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

How are you keeping the 1st class seperate from the 2nd class?
Are you using different frames for each?
At the MC we are seperating and despatching 1st & 2nd class seperatley.

The ips has been split into different coloured fittings. 1C in the one, 2C in the other.

[TopperGas]

We are a trial office. At first rurals were left alone, apart from their routes being changed up a bit. Saturday they wud do parcels and 1st class along with a bit of a lapsed duty.

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

Assuming your DO was reasonably staffed before the trial/pilot started what's happening with all the spare staff, as there should be 1 in 4 staff free on the town duties and, it sounds like, 1 in 2 staff free on the rurals?

[norris9]

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

WTF.

The whole frigging point in these changes is supposed to allow Royal Mail to have a chance of making some profit whilst also committing to deliver a reduced USO so that customers get the service they are supposed to....

Workloads therefore need to be manageable within our working hours = common sense.

Does neither the CWU or Royal Mail have the common sense to simply make our workloads manageable!

[SkiSunday]

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

WTF.

The whole frigging point in these changes is supposed to allow Royal Mail to have a chance of making some profit whilst also committing to deliver a reduced USO so that customers get the service they are supposed to....

Workloads therefore need to be manageable within our working hours = common sense.

Does neither the CWU or Royal Mail have the common sense to simply make our workloads manageable!

That would cost too much money norris9.

[norris9]

WTF.

The whole frigging point in these changes is supposed to allow Royal Mail to have a chance of making some profit whilst also committing to deliver a reduced USO so that customers get the service they are supposed to....

Workloads therefore need to be manageable within our working hours = common sense.

Does neither the CWU or Royal Mail have the common sense to simply make our workloads manageable!

That would cost too much money norris9.

Imagine Ofcom...'We reduced the USO for you so you can turn a profit whilst meeting the obligations, but you have thrown it back in our faces. Here's a £50million fine'.

[TopperGas]

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

WTF.

The whole frigging point in these changes is supposed to allow Royal Mail to have a chance of making some profit whilst also committing to deliver a reduced USO so that customers get the service they are supposed to....

Workloads therefore need to be manageable within our working hours = common sense.

Does neither the CWU or Royal Mail have the common sense to simply make our workloads manageable!

It still doesn't make sense, if 50% of mail is not going out each day then surely less staff & OT are required not more? Unless the office was so poorly staffed before they are now trying to deliver more post each day?

[Perseus]

Surely, some of the pilot offices must be working?

I can't get my head round why some offices are only doing 1/2 an existing duty with packets for the whole duty and it still isn't working.

[SkiSunday]

Not just poorly staffed, but poorly managed for those sweet sweet bonuses over the last 10 years. Destruction of a once great public service for absolutely nothing.

[SkiSunday]

Surely, some of the pilot offices must be working?

I can't get my head round why some offices are only doing 1/2 an existing duty with packets for the whole duty and it still isn't working.

How long are the spans in your office?

[Perseus]

Surely, some of the pilot offices must be working?

I can't get my head round why some offices are only doing 1/2 an existing duty with packets for the whole duty and it still isn't working.

How long are the spans in your office?

The spans vary wildly, from 3.5 to 5 hours. But that isn't relevant to this point i'm making.

If someone is on a 5 hour duty, with 700 delivery points but is only doing mail for one half and parcels for the whole duty, then swapping next day, the 2 days mail should easily be cancelled out by the huge drop in area you are delivering letters to every day. You are only attending a maximum 100% rate of 350 houses.

[SkiSunday]

Surely, some of the pilot offices must be working?

I can't get my head round why some offices are only doing 1/2 an existing duty with packets for the whole duty and it still isn't working.

How long are the spans in your office?

The spans vary wildly, from 3.5 to 5 hours. But that isn't relevant to this point i'm making.

If someone is on a 5 hour duty, with 700 delivery points but is only doing mail for one half and parcels for the whole duty, then swapping next day, the 2 days mail should easily be cancelled out by the huge drop in area you are delivering letters to every day. You are only attending a maximum 100% rate of 350 houses.

I think the relevance is, until you experience this new way of working you will never get your head round it. But fear not as it will be implemented at every DO by the end of the year whether it works or not.

[hero22]

We are a trial office. At first rurals were left alone, apart from their routes being changed up a bit. Saturday they wud do parcels and 1st class along with a bit of a lapsed duty.

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

Assuming your DO was reasonably staffed before the trial/pilot started what's happening with all the spare staff, as there should be 1 in 4 staff free on the town duties and, it sounds like, 1 in 2 staff free on the rurals?

Its always been understaffed mate, they have hired plenty recently and have the guys come in on 40 hour contracts to do parcels but some have left, workloads have seemingly went through the roof. Parcels most days are at levels of 200/230 tracked a day for towns and close to 100 for the rurals. To be honest we all expected overtime to be slashed because of the seemingly extra staff their would be. Saturday seems to be the only day when all is cleared up on time. I don’t understand how when u come back from
Ur day off there was always two days of mail and it always felt manageable but now on the double mail days , two or three trays of mail is appearing for each side of the towns. Feels like mail has went through the roof. Maybe it will take a while to all settle down, it’s definitely a different way of dojng things but im not seeing how the saving is happening

[hero22]

We are a trial office. At first rurals were left alone, apart from their routes being changed up a bit. Saturday they wud do parcels and 1st class along with a bit of a lapsed duty.

Town staff are getting slaughtered daily. Two duties of parcels along with 1st class then next all mail and parcels on ur own duty. On Saturday its always parcels and 1st class so ur always having double if not triple mail every other day.

Now though rurals are being told to do half of their duty in its entirety along with parcels and 1st class for the other half. The following day do the same but swap it around.

Overtime is through the roof , if u want it. There asking people to work days off and even holidays. How its saving money is anyones guess but if u like the OT its happy days at the moment.

How are you keeping the 1st class seperate from the 2nd class?
Are you using different frames for each?
At the MC we are seperating and despatching 1st & 2nd class seperatley.

The IPS frames have been separated so u only lift the 1st class on the correct days etc. The sequence mail we were told wud come down just 1st class but that hasn’t happened. Its mixed with all the mail so at first we sorted through it and took out 1st class. Now we are told to put it all in the frame and just pull out the 1st class when ready to go.
A simple job has been massively over complicated . At the end of the day im paid to deliver and not think too much so i don’t lol. Just seems all a bit mad