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Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

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tramssirhc
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by tramssirhc »

Perseus wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:22
tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:19
norris9 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:05
What % of non-drivers in an office causes an issue with this?
Why would contract variations have any effect? Those with different contracts are accommodated with singleton duties. Bug that's not what Martin Walsh has done. He's thrown anyone with a deviation under the bus.
And for offices with little or no singleton duties?
Not hard to create them. The plan should be to accommodate workers with contract variations.
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SkiSunday
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by SkiSunday »

tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:35
Perseus wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:22
tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:19
norris9 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:05
What % of non-drivers in an office causes an issue with this?
Why would contract variations have any effect? Those with different contracts are accommodated with singleton duties. Bug that's not what Martin Walsh has done. He's thrown anyone with a deviation under the bus.
And for offices with little or no singleton duties?
Not hard to create them. The plan should be to accommodate workers with contract variations.
Imagine creating duties to accommodate people, from the deepest pool of work present.. Unthinkable nonsense. :chuckle
Perseus
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by Perseus »

tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:35
Perseus wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:22
tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:19
norris9 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:05
What % of non-drivers in an office causes an issue with this?
Why would contract variations have any effect? Those with different contracts are accommodated with singleton duties. Bug that's not what Martin Walsh has done. He's thrown anyone with a deviation under the bus.
And for offices with little or no singleton duties?
Not hard to create them. The plan should be to accommodate workers with contract variations.
There is only so may singleton (HCT for instance) duties you can have around an office before you get a 2-3 mile walk to your first delivery point. So I respectfully disagree that it is easy to create them.
SkiSunday
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by SkiSunday »

Perseus wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:40
tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:35
Perseus wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:22
tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:19
norris9 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:05
What % of non-drivers in an office causes an issue with this?
Why would contract variations have any effect? Those with different contracts are accommodated with singleton duties. Bug that's not what Martin Walsh has done. He's thrown anyone with a deviation under the bus.
And for offices with little or no singleton duties?
Not hard to create them. The plan should be to accommodate workers with contract variations.
There is only so may singleton (HCT for instance) duties you can have around an office before you get a 2-3 mile walk to your first delivery point. So I respectfully disagree that it is easy to create them.
Just get yourself a duty in a pilot office. Singletons on 100% of the walks, winning!
claretandblue
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by claretandblue »

We weren't given a choice, 2 in 5, an extra 2 and a half hours a week, so much for the shorter working week.
moonjaguar
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by moonjaguar »

I have no idea what's going on with these changes. I am part time, have the wally week, and finish no later than 2.30pm so as to do the school pick up. Suits me fine. Will this still be possible?
tramssirhc
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by tramssirhc »

Perseus wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:40
tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:35
Perseus wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:22
tramssirhc wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:19
norris9 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:05
What % of non-drivers in an office causes an issue with this?
Why would contract variations have any effect? Those with different contracts are accommodated with singleton duties. Bug that's not what Martin Walsh has done. He's thrown anyone with a deviation under the bus.
And for offices with little or no singleton duties?
Not hard to create them. The plan should be to accommodate workers with contract variations.
There is only so may singleton (HCT for instance) duties you can have around an office before you get a 2-3 mile walk to your first delivery point. So I respectfully disagree that it is easy to create them.
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SkiSunday
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by SkiSunday »

moonjaguar wrote:
16 May 2025, 19:02
I have no idea what's going on with these changes. I am part time, have the wally week, and finish no later than 2.30pm so as to do the school pick up. Suits me fine. Will this still be possible?
You will never know until September. Every DO is different but I doubt the wally week will survive under this CWU culture
Smoothbackground
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by Smoothbackground »

SkiSunday wrote:
16 May 2025, 21:32
moonjaguar wrote:
16 May 2025, 19:02
I have no idea what's going on with these changes. I am part time, have the wally week, and finish no later than 2.30pm so as to do the school pick up. Suits me fine. Will this still be possible?
You will never know until September. Every DO is different but I doubt the wally week will survive under this CWU culture
It’s LondonsBurning! Love your latest username, chum.

How are you in a position to give any advice to Moonjaguar, a current employee, about impending changes, given that you’re an ex employee whose only “inside knowledge” comes from this forum? Maybe I’m missing something here. Are you back working for the business on a new contract?
ted_e_bear
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by ted_e_bear »

SkiSunday wrote:
16 May 2025, 21:32
moonjaguar wrote:
16 May 2025, 19:02
I have no idea what's going on with these changes. I am part time, have the wally week, and finish no later than 2.30pm so as to do the school pick up. Suits me fine. Will this still be possible?
You will never know until September. Every DO is different but I doubt the wally week will survive under this CWU culture
It's one of the seven options but with an extra Saturday off thrown in.
buchanpeter
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by buchanpeter »

We've been told by area managers that in Scotland they'll only be 2 out of 7 patterns available to us.
Because our finishing times are already past 4pm now.
They can't push it any later.
Scotland was sold out hard with those changes to times last year.
norris9
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by norris9 »

claretandblue wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:56
We weren't given a choice, 2 in 5, an extra 2 and a half hours a week, so much for the shorter working week.
Don't you get two 4 day weeks in every 5 weeks.
claretandblue
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by claretandblue »

norris9 wrote:
17 May 2025, 08:05
claretandblue wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:56
We weren't given a choice, 2 in 5, an extra 2 and a half hours a week, so much for the shorter working week.
Don't you get two 4 day weeks in every 5 weeks.
No, 1, Fri, sat every 5 weeks.
Pidleypoo
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by Pidleypoo »

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?
claretandblue
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Re: Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

Post by claretandblue »

Pidleypoo wrote:
17 May 2025, 09:16
Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?
They aren't, they're being imposed to make longer days so that you have longer delivery time.