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LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

Post by clashcityrocker »

I will reiterate what I said.
What is your point?
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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clashcityrocker wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 18:33
I will reiterate what I said.
What is your point?
Lol :crazy: mimicry or imitating someone really is the finest form of flattery. Thank you kind sir. :thumbup
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Or alternatively it is just pisstaking but you are too dim to realise. :chuckle
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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clashcityrocker wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 19:59
Or alternatively it is just pisstaking but you are too dim to realise. :chuckle
Too much hilarity...
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

Post by Londonsburning »

Keep pushing your narrative clashcityrocker :wink:
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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I just updated my personal profile but it didn’t have any options about if you need any accommodations

I thought the whole point of it was so you don’t have to become a neuroscientist and try to explain to your knucklehead manager who can barely tie his own shoelaces why you need help with some stuff
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Londonsburning wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 19:02
Newandscared wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 18:26
2chorizon wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 16:52
Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
I don't think the type is relevant, this is a hidden disability, although I understand why people ask. The main point is that a reasonable adjustment often has a positive impact on the rest of the workforce, often if the employer doesn't feel that disclosing a persons disability is required then a blanket approach to a policy change can have positive effects across the board because not implementing it would negatively effect the disabled person but only allowing a disabled person to use it may be discriminatory to other employees that either aren't disabled or haven't been diagnosed with a disability so can't yet ask for adjustment. Think things like a person with a herniated disc being allowed to use a trolley to do their deliveries...why would you not let other colleagues have a trolley when it could reduce injuries to them and increase delivery speed.
Often I find line managers don't understand through lack of experience and a very specific type of experience. Often people just plain do not care or can't see something from the perspective of a disabled employee until it happens to them. It's human nature but it need not cause issues at work.
Physical and mental disabilities are very different things when it comes to the ability to be a delivery OPG. If you are claiming mental illness then this is not the job for you.
That’s a complete bell end statement LB

I’d say the opposite, you don’t have to have a mental disorder to work for Royal Mail but it helps

I have ADHD and I’d say I’m well suited to the job largely due to my hyperactivity

I frequently worked with a lad with ASD and one of his talents was that he knew the address of every customer on his round, useful when you get a parcel or letter with an incomplete address

We all have our uses disability or otherwise and if you actually are useless you just become a manager that’s the Royal Mail way

Are you thinking of becoming a manager LB coz with statements that I think you’ve got the right attitude
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Jen1 wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 17:57
Londonsburning wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 19:02
Newandscared wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 18:26
2chorizon wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 16:52
Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
I don't think the type is relevant, this is a hidden disability, although I understand why people ask. The main point is that a reasonable adjustment often has a positive impact on the rest of the workforce, often if the employer doesn't feel that disclosing a persons disability is required then a blanket approach to a policy change can have positive effects across the board because not implementing it would negatively effect the disabled person but only allowing a disabled person to use it may be discriminatory to other employees that either aren't disabled or haven't been diagnosed with a disability so can't yet ask for adjustment. Think things like a person with a herniated disc being allowed to use a trolley to do their deliveries...why would you not let other colleagues have a trolley when it could reduce injuries to them and increase delivery speed.
Often I find line managers don't understand through lack of experience and a very specific type of experience. Often people just plain do not care or can't see something from the perspective of a disabled employee until it happens to them. It's human nature but it need not cause issues at work.
Physical and mental disabilities are very different things when it comes to the ability to be a delivery OPG. If you are claiming mental illness then this is not the job for you.
That’s a complete bell end statement LB

I’d say the opposite, you don’t have to have a mental disorder to work for Royal Mail but it helps

I have ADHD and I’d say I’m well suited to the job largely due to my hyperactivity

I frequently worked with a lad with ASD and one of his talents was that he knew the address of every customer on his round, useful when you get a parcel or letter with an incomplete address

We all have our uses disability or otherwise and if you actually are useless you just become a manager that’s the Royal Mail way

Are you thinking of becoming a manager LB coz with statements that I think you’ve got the right attitude
The OP literally said they have quit the job because 'hidden disabilities' so clearly they don't have ADHD OR ASD then according to you. :crazy:
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

Post by Jen1 »

Londonsburning wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 18:08
Jen1 wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 17:57
Londonsburning wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 19:02
Newandscared wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 18:26
2chorizon wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 16:52
Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
I don't think the type is relevant, this is a hidden disability, although I understand why people ask. The main point is that a reasonable adjustment often has a positive impact on the rest of the workforce, often if the employer doesn't feel that disclosing a persons disability is required then a blanket approach to a policy change can have positive effects across the board because not implementing it would negatively effect the disabled person but only allowing a disabled person to use it may be discriminatory to other employees that either aren't disabled or haven't been diagnosed with a disability so can't yet ask for adjustment. Think things like a person with a herniated disc being allowed to use a trolley to do their deliveries...why would you not let other colleagues have a trolley when it could reduce injuries to them and increase delivery speed.
Often I find line managers don't understand through lack of experience and a very specific type of experience. Often people just plain do not care or can't see something from the perspective of a disabled employee until it happens to them. It's human nature but it need not cause issues at work.
Physical and mental disabilities are very different things when it comes to the ability to be a delivery OPG. If you are claiming mental illness then this is not the job for you.
That’s a complete bell end statement LB

I’d say the opposite, you don’t have to have a mental disorder to work for Royal Mail but it helps

I have ADHD and I’d say I’m well suited to the job largely due to my hyperactivity

I frequently worked with a lad with ASD and one of his talents was that he knew the address of every customer on his round, useful when you get a parcel or letter with an incomplete address

We all have our uses disability or otherwise and if you actually are useless you just become a manager that’s the Royal Mail way

Are you thinking of becoming a manager LB coz with statements that I think you’ve got the right attitude
The OP literally said they have quit the job because 'hidden disabilities' so clearly they don't have ADHD OR ASD then according to you. :crazy:
I used those 2 as examples or did you expect me to list every hidden disability? :crazy:

Are you actually attempting to defend your ignorant as funk statement?

That’s lower than an Olympic limbo champion give your head a shake mate
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

Post by Londonsburning »

I've known many people with some form of autism come and go at my DO. None of them lasted. It's incompatible with working a job at Royal Mail, likewise I would think many other "hidden disabilities" would have have the exact same outcome. Apparently your specific job at your specific DO is great though. :left:
You don't work in a pilot office by any chance? :hmmmm
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Londonsburning wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 18:52
I've known many people with some form of autism come and go at my DO. None of them lasted. It's incompatible with working a job at Royal Mail, likewise I would think at any other delivery service in the UK.
Well obviously I’ve already proven you wrong we had 2 fellas with ASD (used to be called Autism) one of them worked there for decades before he retired

One of them is actually a better postie than the majority of the office although he’s useless at giving directions the other was more of a plodder but he’d stay out until the job was done regardless of if he was getting paid (it was when I first started and managers took advantage of him)

It says more about how intolerant your office is than about the ability of people with mental disorders guess you fit in well at your office
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Jen1 wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 19:07
Londonsburning wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 18:52
I've known many people with some form of autism come and go at my DO. None of them lasted. It's incompatible with working a job at Royal Mail, likewise I would think at any other delivery service in the UK.
Well obviously I’ve already proven you wrong we had 2 fellas with ASD (used to be called Autism) one of them worked there for decades before he retired

One of them is actually a better postie than the majority of the office although he’s useless at giving directions the other was more of a plodder but he’d stay out until the job was done regardless of if he was getting paid (it was when I first started and managers took advantage of him)

It says more about how intolerant your office is than about the ability of people with mental disorders guess you fit in well at your office
It says more about your DOMs COMs LMs if you ask me.
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Londonsburning wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 19:10
Jen1 wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 19:07
Londonsburning wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 18:52
I've known many people with some form of autism come and go at my DO. None of them lasted. It's incompatible with working a job at Royal Mail, likewise I would think at any other delivery service in the UK.
Well obviously I’ve already proven you wrong we had 2 fellas with ASD (used to be called Autism) one of them worked there for decades before he retired

One of them is actually a better postie than the majority of the office although he’s useless at giving directions the other was more of a plodder but he’d stay out until the job was done regardless of if he was getting paid (it was when I first started and managers took advantage of him)

It says more about how intolerant your office is than about the ability of people with mental disorders guess you fit in well at your office
It says more about your DOMs COMs LMs if you ask me.
Why would I ask you? I can see how ignorant your opinions are
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

Post by Londonsburning »

It's literally called a turn of phrase. if you really want to be the bigger/better person, then stick up for OP. It's nothing personal, my opinion and experience is worth more in the real world than on this anonymous forum.
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Londonsburning wrote:
22 Apr 2025, 19:27
It's literally called a turn of phrase. if you really want to be the bigger/better person, then stick up for OP. It's nothing personal, my opinion and experience is worth more in the real world than on this anonymous forum.
:left: Oh bless you that’s cute you think you have more experience of hidden disabilities in the workplace than someone that lives it everyday