It seems that the CWU and Royal Mail are keen to move part timers to full time hours so that the sorting/prep can get us out the door quicker....
Some PT will not want to go FT, so I'm interested in what plans they have for those part timers. Would they just have to live with the fact that some part timers won't be coming in until later in the morning and accept that will mean the office won't be able to get out on delivery as early as they'd hope....
or do they get the part timers to come in earlier but work 1 day less per week? or would that cause problems as they'd have to find a setup that would cover the part timers extra day off?
Can anyone at the CWU or anyone on the trials answer this?
I doubt it. Although there are a lot of PT'ers in this particular situation nationwide, it will depend on how each office implements the process - each office is different. That is assuming the pilots prove successful - should it be implemented
I am part-time and not interested in going full-time.... but I'd happily increase the length of my working day in exchange of reducing my working week from 5 days to 4....
No idea if that would work as part of the USO plans.
In no comment up to this one, has anyone addressed the part timers role in these trials. Unless they are planning pt start 6 hours before the ft finishes and don’t do any indoor work (for a 30 hour contract), but later start and finish takes away any flexibility
It seems that the CWU and Royal Mail are keen to move part timers to full time hours so that the sorting/prep can get us out the door quicker....
Some PT will not want to go FT, so I'm interested in what plans they have for those part timers. Would they just have to live with the fact that some part timers won't be coming in until later in the morning and accept that will mean the office won't be able to get out on delivery as early as they'd hope....
or do they get the part timers to come in earlier but work 1 day less per week? or would that cause problems as they'd have to find a setup that would cover the part timers extra day off?
Can anyone at the CWU or anyone on the trials answer this?
I'm going to need some help with this one norris9 as I can't quite get it but have a read and maybe someone can advise.
I've had a look at the suggested attendance pattern options that were listed on a post a while ago to see what if anything they say for part timers and it isn't clear but at the start of this post according to Martin Walsh the trial offices opted for the 2 in 5 Saturday option.
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So if you look at that the day off cover is part time and only attends Mon,Tues,Thurs, Fri every week 7.50 per day so 31hrs20 which would help answering your question regarding part time doing less days.
What I can't get is there appears to be 5 duties and 5 people in every weekday so no savings there (but only 3 on Saturday doing the 5 duties presumably parcels 1c only) so are they all singleton duties or what ?
What am I missing here ? Someone must know if it's happening in the trial offices.
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As for the new duty patterns i will stick with my nine day fortnights i will be 63 in october i have worked my day off for twenty seven years now i am enjoying my days off.
As for the new duty patterns i will stick with my nine day fortnights i will be 63 in october i have worked my day off for twenty seven years now i am enjoying my days off.
Does your DO not have floaters? Or do you just cover a different duty on your day off every week?
I am part-time and not interested in going full-time.... but I'd happily increase the length of my working day in exchange of reducing my working week from 5 days to 4....
No idea if that would work as part of the USO plans.
In no comment up to this one, has anyone addressed the part timers role in these trials. Unless they are planning pt start 6 hours before the ft finishes and don’t do any indoor work (for a 30 hour contract), but later start and finish takes away any flexibility
I’m on 30hrs and hardly do any indoor work(don’t work OT)
everyone should have the same finish time!
I've had a look at the suggested attendance pattern options that were listed on a post a while ago to see what if anything they say for part timers and it isn't clear but at the start of this post according to Martin Walsh the trial offices opted for the 2 in 5 Saturday option.
So if you look at that the day off cover is part time and only attends Mon,Tues,Thurs, Fri every week 7.50 per day so 31hrs20 which would help answering your question regarding part time doing less days.
This is the perfect setup for part timers.... Every Wednesday and Saturday off. Wednesday is a busier day and Saturday is well....Saturday... Whole weekend off! 4 day week!
I've had a look at the suggested attendance pattern options that were listed on a post a while ago to see what if anything they say for part timers and it isn't clear but at the start of this post according to Martin Walsh the trial offices opted for the 2 in 5 Saturday option.
So if you look at that the day off cover is part time and only attends Mon,Tues,Thurs, Fri every week 7.50 per day so 31hrs20 which would help answering your question regarding part time doing less days.
This is the perfect setup for part timers.... Every Wednesday and Saturday off. Wednesday is a busier day and Saturday is well....Saturday... Whole weekend off! 4 day week!
I've had a look at the suggested attendance pattern options that were listed on a post a while ago to see what if anything they say for part timers and it isn't clear but at the start of this post according to Martin Walsh the trial offices opted for the 2 in 5 Saturday option.
So if you look at that the day off cover is part time and only attends Mon,Tues,Thurs, Fri every week 7.50 per day so 31hrs20 which would help answering your question regarding part time doing less days.
This is the perfect setup for part timers.... Every Wednesday and Saturday off. Wednesday is a busier day and Saturday is well....Saturday... Whole weekend off! 4 day week!
I've had a look at the suggested attendance pattern options that were listed on a post a while ago to see what if anything they say for part timers and it isn't clear but at the start of this post according to Martin Walsh the trial offices opted for the 2 in 5 Saturday option.
So if you look at that the day off cover is part time and only attends Mon,Tues,Thurs, Fri every week 7.50 per day so 31hrs20 which would help answering your question regarding part time doing less days.
This is the perfect setup for part timers.... Every Wednesday and Saturday off. Wednesday is a busier day and Saturday is well....Saturday... Whole weekend off! 4 day week!
I've had a look at the suggested attendance pattern options that were listed on a post a while ago to see what if anything they say for part timers and it isn't clear but at the start of this post according to Martin Walsh the trial offices opted for the 2 in 5 Saturday option.
So if you look at that the day off cover is part time and only attends Mon,Tues,Thurs, Fri every week 7.50 per day so 31hrs20 which would help answering your question regarding part time doing less days.
This is the perfect setup for part timers.... Every Wednesday and Saturday off. Wednesday is a busier day and Saturday is well....Saturday... Whole weekend off! 4 day week!
That only works if there's 1 PT to 5 FT staff, what if there's 2 or more, it seems odd the PT gets the busiest day of the week off every week, it also assumes every PT'er is willing to work FT 4 days a week. If they were they'd probably already be doing it 5 days a week anyway?
The duty pattern where the DOC, or as we know them 'floaters', are part time and contracted to work Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday is a disgrace. It's the CWU's idea of progress that once again treats part time workers as inferior. What happened to quality time off? Under this rotation the part time worker doesn't even have a recognised day off being shown N/A, which should really be 'not required'. And we all know what will happen. There will be no cover for Wednesday and Saturday and the part time worker will be expected to work thereby creating a 6 day week. Martin's the first to go on about history. We fought to get a 5 day week. The CWU pick the history that suits their sellout.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
The duty pattern where the DOC, or as we know them 'floaters', are part time and contracted to work Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday is a disgrace. It's the CWU's idea of progress that once again treats part time workers as inferior. What happened to quality time off? Under this rotation the part time worker doesn't even have a recognised day off being shown N/A, which should really be 'not required'. And we all know what will happen. There will be no cover for Wednesday and Saturday and the part time worker will be expected to work thereby creating a 6 day week. Martin's the first to go on about history. We fought to get a 5 day week. The CWU pick the history that suits their sellout.
What are you on about ? I was replying to Norris's question regarding part timers attending fewer days but on more hours per day
Try looking again, the PT has every weds, sat and Sunday off, n/a means not applicable as they aren't there, on Wednesdays all the duty holders are scheduled to work, on Saturday 3 out of 5 duty holders are scheduled to work but they'll only be delivering parcels and 1c for the 5 duties.
The duty pattern where the DOC, or as we know them 'floaters', are part time and contracted to work Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday is a disgrace. It's the CWU's idea of progress that once again treats part time workers as inferior. What happened to quality time off? Under this rotation the part time worker doesn't even have a recognised day off being shown N/A, which should really be 'not required'. And we all know what will happen. There will be no cover for Wednesday and Saturday and the part time worker will be expected to work thereby creating a 6 day week. Martin's the first to go on about history. We fought to get a 5 day week. The CWU pick the history that suits their sellout.
Not sure what you mean.
Quality time off? - a part timer would get the whole weekend off and a busier day in the middle of the week off - Wednesday. It would be wonderful, like being semi-retired.
The only thing inferior about it is you have no option but to be a float. In that case I think part timers deserve to have the busier Wednesday + the Saturday off.
That only works if there's 1 PT to 5 FT staff, what if there's 2 or more, it seems odd the PT gets the busiest day of the week off every week, it also assumes every PT'er is willing to work FT 4 days a week. If they were they'd probably already be doing it 5 days a week anyway?
At the end of the day I guess we won't truly know how it will work until the fat lady sings.
Different part timers have different reasons for being part time. Some may do the school run in the morning so won't want to start early.
I wouldn't be surprised if some full timers dropped down to being part timers if the benefit is every Wednesday and Saturday off, especially those closer to retirement who may not need the FT money as much anymore and whose hips, knees and ankles are falling apart.
The duty pattern where the DOC, or as we know them 'floaters', are part time and contracted to work Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday is a disgrace. It's the CWU's idea of progress that once again treats part time workers as inferior. What happened to quality time off? Under this rotation the part time worker doesn't even have a recognised day off being shown N/A, which should really be 'not required'. And we all know what will happen. There will be no cover for Wednesday and Saturday and the part time worker will be expected to work thereby creating a 6 day week. Martin's the first to go on about history. We fought to get a 5 day week. The CWU pick the history that suits their sellout.
Not really sure what you are talking about here
If they are contracted to work M,T,T and F then they surely have every Wed, Sat and Sun off
And if they were contracted to only work those days how could they be forced to work the other days in addition?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
