Non drivers

[Barnacle]

8,000 non drivers still.

3400 of that number can drive - they choose not to.

[thefox]

Some people currently work six days a week so speed of delivery 2nd class they drop down to five days a week.

I see

[tramssirhc]

With the uso changes coming in this year will non drivers be able to sign for duties and if so how would this work .

The CWU should be ensuring there are arrangements in place for workers who are not contractually obliged to drive. These workers are not 'non-drivers', they have no obligation to drive. There will still be singleton duties such as town centres. There is no reason why a duty could not be created within a mile of the workplace so that these workers can be accommodated. Martin Walsh has dreamt up the role of 'van assistant' so that should accommodate workers too. Workers who are not obliged to drive should not suffer a detriment as a result of their contractual requirements.

[derekm]

If your a non driver & your to work indoors because of the fatigue level whats the chances of the manager telling you that your out walking because we're short staffed

[claretandblue]

Van assistant wasn't mentioned, seems to have been quietly dropped in favour of Starburst.

[kazardaimenu]

Probably more likely the non drivers get a pick of the fixed duties and the drivers get moved around to clear up the mess.

[chickenwittle]

8,000 non drivers still.

3400 of that number can drive - they choose not to.

They should be forced to drive or leave the job in my opinion , the job has changed and requires you to drive and they are taking the choice not to , it’s that simple.

[chickenwittle]

With the uso changes coming in this year will non drivers be able to sign for duties and if so how would this work .

The CWU should be ensuring there are arrangements in place for workers who are not contractually obliged to drive. These workers are not 'non-drivers', they have no obligation to drive. There will still be singleton duties such as town centres. There is no reason why a duty could not be created within a mile of the workplace so that these workers can be accommodated. Martin Walsh has dreamt up the role of 'van assistant' so that should accommodate workers too. Workers who are not obliged to drive should not suffer a detriment as a result of their contractual requirements.

You talk nonsense, if they have a driving license, they should be forced to use it or find another job, the business has changed down the years and so should they .

[Acca Dacca]

Yes chicken

The business chose to change, not the workers

What else do you think the business should be able to change and force you to do that isn’t in your contract?

I have no license FWIW and never have done

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Having to do 1st class, tracked and priority items may be more of a days graft than being a rotating passenger to be honest.
Many often struggle completing a day's work now just doing tracked without 1st class.
The only ones that do get it done graft and stay out but everyone hates just doing packets on their own, especially from Wednesday to Saturday.
Depends on the area I suppose and parcel traffic.
We get battered Wednesday onwards.
I'm not convinced the non drivers will have the heavier workload.
I think I would rather be a passenger moving forward.

[Pidleypoo]

With the uso changes coming in this year will non drivers be able to sign for duties and if so how would this work .

The CWU should be ensuring there are arrangements in place for workers who are not contractually obliged to drive. These workers are not 'non-drivers', they have no obligation to drive. There will still be singleton duties such as town centres. There is no reason why a duty could not be created within a mile of the workplace so that these workers can be accommodated. Martin Walsh has dreamt up the role of 'van assistant' so that should accommodate workers too. Workers who are not obliged to drive should not suffer a detriment as a result of their contractual requirements.

You talk nonsense, if they have a driving license, they should be forced to use it or find another job, the business has changed down the years and so should they .

Let’s take this further shall we.

You’re not walking fast enough , the job has changed.

You’re not doing 50 parcels per hour , the job has changed.

You’re not committing to deliver , the job has changed.

You’re not working for free , the job has changed.

The job has changed so you now need to change job.

Utterly embarrassing comment from you.

[chickenwittle]

Yes chicken

The business chose to change, not the workers

What else do you think the business should be able to change and force you to do that isn’t in your contract?

I have no license FWIW and never have done

They are choosing to not drive , they have a skill the business requires and are not using it , I don’t think it’s acceptable, especially as having a driving licence is now a requirement for the job.

[scratted]

We've been told that if you cant drive that we're just doing Monday to Friday

[Pidleypoo]

Yes chicken

The business chose to change, not the workers

What else do you think the business should be able to change and force you to do that isn’t in your contract?

I have no license FWIW and never have done

I’ve said this before and i will say it again.

Unless every single duty is to become a single van duty then non-drivers are not redundant.

Unless they’re operating a vehicle at the same time which I’m sure is illegal.

Sad state of affairs on here with people wanting people to lose their jobs for reasons out of their control.

Btw , it’s now takes a lot of money and a long time to even get driving lessons and pass a test these days.

Are Royal Mail going to pay for it and seeing as though we’re now so poorly paid will the union actually address both things.

[chickenwittle]

With the uso changes coming in this year will non drivers be able to sign for duties and if so how would this work .

The CWU should be ensuring there are arrangements in place for workers who are not contractually obliged to drive. These workers are not 'non-drivers', they have no obligation to drive. There will still be singleton duties such as town centres. There is no reason why a duty could not be created within a mile of the workplace so that these workers can be accommodated. Martin Walsh has dreamt up the role of 'van assistant' so that should accommodate workers too. Workers who are not obliged to drive should not suffer a detriment as a result of their contractual requirements.

You talk nonsense, if they have a driving license, they should be forced to use it or find another job, the business has changed down the years and so should they .

Let’s take this further shall we.

You’re not walking fast enough , the job has changed.

You’re not doing 50 parcels per hour , the job has changed.

You’re not committing to deliver , the job has changed.

You’re not working for free , the job has changed.

The job has changed so you now need to change job.

Utterly embarrassing comment from you.
[Thats a total fabrication, you now require a driving license to work for Royal Mail , these people have a driving license and are actively choosing not to use it .