On a side note a month ago management printed and left a notice on our frames regarding the wearing of seat belts stating we must wear them at all times as Royal Mail vans are not classed as goods vehicles and the exemption of driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops does not apply to us.
That notice is 100% false as the van I drive is classed as Vehicle type approval N1 a Light Goods Vehicle
If the RM standard is to wear a seatbelt at ALL times then wear it. If you don't, RM will just conduct code you, don't know if they'd class it as gross misconduct.
I know it's Royal Mail policy to always wear a seat belt I was just highlighting that managers have no understanding of the law.
Just say it's company policy period.
On a side note a month ago management printed and left a notice on our frames regarding the wearing of seat belts stating we must wear them at all times as Royal Mail vans are not classed as goods vehicles and the exemption of driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops does not apply to us.
That notice is 100% false as the van I drive is classed as Vehicle type approval N1 a Light Goods Vehicle
If the RM standard is to wear a seatbelt at ALL times then wear it. If you don't, RM will just conduct code you, don't know if they'd class it as gross misconduct.
I know it's Royal Mail policy to always wear a seat belt I was just highlighting that managers have no understanding of the law.
Just say it's company policy period.
A van needs to be over 3.5 tonnes to be classed as a goods vehicle, most vans in DOs won't be over 3.5 tonnes. Anyway there won't be too many cases where you're driving less than 50m between stops.
A van needs to be over 3.5 tonnes to be classed as a goods vehicle, most vans in DOs won't be over 3.5 tonnes. Anyway there won't be too many cases where you're driving less than 50m between stops.
No it doesn't.
It really really doesn't.
A goods vehicle can be any size as long as it has been adapted to primarily carry.......goods.
A light goods vehicle sometimes known as a light commercial vehicle is anything below 3.5t.
On a side note a month ago management printed and left a notice on our frames regarding the wearing of seat belts stating we must wear them at all times as Royal Mail vans are not classed as goods vehicles and the exemption of driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops does not apply to us.
That notice is 100% false as the van I drive is classed as Vehicle type approval N1 a Light Goods Vehicle
If the RM standard is to wear a seatbelt at ALL times then wear it. If you don't, RM will just conduct code you, don't know if they'd class it as gross misconduct.
I know it's Royal Mail policy to always wear a seat belt I was just highlighting that managers have no understanding of the law.
Just say it's company policy period.
A van needs to be over 3.5 tonnes to be classed as a goods vehicle, most vans in DOs won't be over 3.5 tonnes. Anyway there won't be too many cases where you're driving less than 50m between stops.
100% incorrect
The light goods vehicle class is intended for vehicles registered on or after 1 March 2001. Besides not exceeding 3,500kg, they have been type-approved by manufacturers as N1 category vehicles. This means that they have been specifically designed to carry goods
On a side note a month ago management printed and left a notice on our frames regarding the wearing of seat belts stating we must wear them at all times as Royal Mail vans are not classed as goods vehicles and the exemption of driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops does not apply to us.
That notice is 100% false as the van I drive is classed as Vehicle type approval N1 a Light Goods Vehicle
If the RM standard is to wear a seatbelt at ALL times then wear it. If you don't, RM will just conduct code you, don't know if they'd class it as gross misconduct.
I know it's Royal Mail policy to always wear a seat belt I was just highlighting that managers have no understanding of the law.
Just say it's company policy period.
Anyway there won't be too many cases where you're driving less than 50m between stops.
Tell me youve never worked in delivery without telling me youve never worked in delivery.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
On a side note a month ago management printed and left a notice on our frames regarding the wearing of seat belts stating we must wear them at all times as Royal Mail vans are not classed as goods vehicles and the exemption of driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops does not apply to us.
That notice is 100% false as the van I drive is classed as Vehicle type approval N1 a Light Goods Vehicle
If the RM standard is to wear a seatbelt at ALL times then wear it. If you don't, RM will just conduct code you, don't know if they'd class it as gross misconduct.
I know it's Royal Mail policy to always wear a seat belt I was just highlighting that managers have no understanding of the law.
Just say it's company policy period.
Anyway there won't be too many cases where you're driving less than 50m between stops.
Tell me youve never worked in delivery without telling me youve never worked in delivery.
50m isn't that far, it's walkable and it's a waste of fuel. Anytime now RM will be cracking down on fuel usage. They're already monitoring electric usage
50m isn't that far, it's walkable and it's a waste of fuel. Anytime now RM will be cracking down on fuel usage. They're already monitoring electric usage
For f***s sake...again royal mail policy is if you drive one of their vehicles you must apply the seat belt, it doesn't matter if it's a goods vehicle, a car, or a tuktuk, whatever the highway code says is irrelevant that's the rules.
For f***s sake...again royal mail policy is if you drive one of their vehicles you must apply the seat belt, it doesn't matter if it's a goods vehicle, a car, or a tuktuk, whatever the highway code says is irrelevant that's the rules.
And did I not say that ?
AGAIN I was highlighting a claim by management to be a complete and utter lie.
50m isn't that far, it's walkable and it's a waste of fuel. Anytime now RM will be cracking down on fuel usage. They're already monitoring electric usage
Lol - walk multiples of 45m there and 45m back in a day = fuel saved but delivery time wasted.
"Boss I couldn't complete my delivery today but I've saved a quid's worth of diesel."
For f***s sake...again royal mail policy is if you drive one of their vehicles you must apply the seat belt, it doesn't matter if it's a goods vehicle, a car, or a tuktuk, whatever the highway code says is irrelevant that's the rules.
Are there any feedback or information regards increased delivery spans within uso trials
How are they reducing fatigue for walking men
How are they scheduling meal breaks
Our mgmt team think it will be 20 min before delivery and 20 at end of shift
I dont think thats even legal over 9 hr day
Are cwu monitoring effects on staff health (mental and physical ) during trials
Is workload being evened out fairly
We have heard nothing of note as yet
for a kick off its 50 min break for a 9 hour day so tell the mgmt they are wrong .
Like I said that only applies to workers covered by the WTR. Employers can agree different arrangements as long as they meet the minimum requirement - 20 minutes, unpaid, during the working time of 6 or more hours and away from the work.
I agree with you mate. How can you have people on all sorts of different terms and conditions and pay, working the same job or even hours. I know for a fact that my local DO , the new staff are working through their breaks because the older contracts have still got the job and knock in their head. So new starts at my local office are giving at least2.5 hrs per week for no pay. The union doesn't care. The cwu are no longer fit for purpose and that's got to do with most of the people at the top. And with about 40% of offices not even having a rep, that suits management very well. I just wonder if brown envelopes have been passed about to certain people. Maybe I'm wrong but surely you can't sell your workforce out like they have for no gain, or they are completely the wrong people for the job. I would say that with a new owner coming in, is EXACTLY the correct time to vote for industrial action. A work to the rules would keep the wages coming but bring RM to the table. The cwu sound more like management these days. Something needs to give. Yes things need to change but you don't need to treat your staff like s**t while doing it.
