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Post by woofwoof »

where is this supposed to take place cos when i got trained i got told to put some waterproof leggings on and just carry on walking
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I think someone was taking the piss! :whistle :whistle
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Just ask for those nappy things the American phone engineers were given (it's a previous thread, I'm sure Teebs can find it :wink: )
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Post by woofwoof »

well my dom says cos i deliver to a primary school i can just ask to go there i said f##k off no way just asking on a serious note
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Post by Carnoustie »

I thought for a moment you were making an announcement, woofwoof :shock:


The seats on our loos seem to get broken on a regular basis. Management have never got to the, ahem, bottom of it :chuckle
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Re: toilet breaks

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woofwoof wrote:where is this supposed to take place cos when i got trained i got told to put some waterproof leggings on and just carry on walking

I helped set up walk logs in our area and every walk should have a designated toilet facility. Generally the DOM should contact a business or publically accessible building and ask for permission for the postie to use their toilets when required. In the rare walks where this is impossible then they put an endorsement on the Log to say that the manager should be conctacted for a "return to office" to allow for releif.

There is time in the indoor phase its called "Comfort Break" and is 10 minutes. However, no time is built into the outdoor phase.
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Post by sammysammy »

OK if you take a look at the LAW at this you do NOT have to ASK to go to the toilet only if you have something that some can take IE= nick
IF you talk to your dom and tell him that you will return to the office to use the loo see if he will tell you NO?
because NO one can stop you this is why they have not put this down in BLACK and WHITE we are now in the EU have a look for your self its all on the web
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Post by sammysammy »

sorry! someone can take
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Post by newpostie »

use a bloody bush for a number 1, run back to the DO for a number 2 lol
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Post by brothermagrew »

sammysammy wrote:OK if you take a look at the LAW at this you do NOT have to ASK to go to the toilet only if you have something that some can take IE= nick
IF you talk to your dom and tell him that you will return to the office to use the loo see if he will tell you NO?
because NO one can stop you this is why they have not put this down in BLACK and WHITE we are now in the EU have a look for your self its all on the web
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Toilet & Washroom Provision:

Does my employer have to provide a toilet where I work?
Yes. Your employer needs to provide at least one toilet for your workplace, and separate toilets for men and women if workers are of both sexes in your workplace.
The number of toilets provided is governed by this formula (calculated separately for men and women):
1-5 workers = 1 toilet
6-25 workers = 2 toilets
26-50 workers = 3 toilets
51-75 workers = 4 toilets
76-100 workers = 5 toilets

If different toilets are only to be used by different group of workers in your workplace (eg: office workers and factory workers), the calculation needs to be done separately for each group.

If the toilets where you work are also used by members of the public, the number provided needs to be increased so that staff can use them without delay.

Do I have a right to use the loo during my working day?
The law is currently unclear on this, but you do have a right to take a break for 20 minutes if you work more than 6 hours a day, and therefore do have a clear right to use the toilet during this time, or during a lunch break. The TUC are pressing for legal change to give people the right to use the toilet at other times. An exception to this is if you have a medical condition which necessitates you to take a toilet break at other times. Your employer would not be able to deny you a break in this case.

My workplace washroom is filthy. Shouldn't my employer keep it in a better state?
Yes, toilet and washroom facilities for staff must be properly maintained. The Workplace Regulations (1992) state that they need to be:
• kept in a clean and orderly condition
• provided separately for men and women
• provided with toilet paper, and coat hooks
• provided with a supply of clean hot (or warm) and cold water
• provided with soap, and towels or other means of drying
• adequately ventilated and lit
• providing adequate protection from the weather

Does my employer have to provide separate male and female loos?
Yes, The Workplace Regulations (1992) state under Regulation 20 that employers need to provide separate rooms containing toilets for men and women.
Toilets used by women must also be provided with facilities for disposing of sanitary towels.

I have a medical condition and need to take regular toilet breaks. Does my employer have to allow this?
Yes. Although the law on taking a loo break is vague in many cases, you do have a right to take a break if you need to for medical reasons.

I have a disability. Does my employer have to make a toilet accessible for me?
Yes. The Approved Code of Practice to the Workplace Regulations requires that provision be made for workers with a disability to have access to facilities that are suitable for them.

Is my employer allowed to dock my pay for taking loo breaks?
The law is currently unclear on this, and there have been many past cases where workers have been unjustly penalized for taking a loo break. The TUC are pressing for legal change to prevent this.
Currently employers may be able to deduct pay if there is a clause in your contract stating that you will not be paid for toilet breaks, or if you are away from your work station. If in doubt, check the terms of your contract to see if your employer is permitted to do this.

Do I need to ask permission to use the toilet?
Ludicrous as it seems, there have in the past been cases where workers have been made to feel humiliated by having to request to use the toilet from their manager, especially in high-pressure workplaces such as call centres. The law is currently unclear on this, though. The TUC are pressing for legal change to prevent this.

We wear special work clothing. Does my employer have to provide a changing room?
Yes. The Approved Code of Practice for the Workplace Regulations (1992) requires that employers provide changing rooms if employees need to change into special work clothing and remove more than their outer clothing, or if they need to protect their own clothing being damaged by harmful substances.
These changing rooms should be provided with adequate seating, and facility for privacy. They should be readily accessible from workrooms and any eating facilities, and if showers or baths are provided, these should be directly adjacent, so that staff do not need to walk through other rooms to go between them.

Does my employer have to provide drinking water?
Yes. There's a clear duty on employers to provide drinking water at work, under the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992.
These regulations state that an 'adequate supply of wholesome drinking water' must be provided, and that it be readily available at suitable and clearly marked places. This could be provided either with a supply of suitable cups, or as a drinking fountain.
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Just ask for those nappy things the American phone engineers were given (it's a previous thread, I'm sure Teebs can find it :wink: )
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... t=american
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Post by woofwoof »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Just ask for those nappy things the American phone engineers were given (it's a previous thread, I'm sure Teebs can find it :wink: )
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... t=american

great idea do you think we can get these out of the first line fix money
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Post by fedup postie »

brothermagrew very good reply. Could i ask where you got this information from?
Thanks
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Post by brothermagrew »

fedup postie wrote:brothermagrew very good reply. Could i ask where you got this information from?
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Post by AndyK »

Welfare Issues

Unhindered access to clean, secure sanitary conveniences – no excuses!
Clearly identified in Walk Log
Preferably checked by manager/rep
Recommended – take some meal relief prior to delivery
Important factor to guard against fatigue

Access to toilets is a fundamental human right - The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 require suitable and sufficient, clean and adequately ventilated and lit sanitary conveniences at readily accessible places. Pregnant women have additional rights but would generally be discouraged from delivery for manual handling reasons.

The location of toilets needs to be factored in when designing the delivery including the time it takes to get to and from the facility. Locations should be clearly indicated in the walk log and/or on the delivery frame.

Hygiene and security is paramount particularly where women may be covering the delivery.

Where there is no facility on the delivery then conveyance to an adjacent delivery is required, if all else fails a return to the workplace is required.

Meal reliefs are also fundamental in avoiding fatigue and ensuring nutrition. Meal reliefs must be planned before delivery.