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LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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claretandblue
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by claretandblue »

What is a van assistant 🤔
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by claretandblue »

Martin Walsh wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:16
It is strange that some posts don’t refer to the fact that the Regulator who has watched Royal Mail decline due to unfair competition and E substitution and done nothing.

They are now stating that the USO is financially unsustainable and if it is not this option then it will require a legislation change which will reduce the days the USO is delivered to 3 or 4.

The status quo which is currently not working is not going to remain.

So it would be madness for the CWU to sit on the sidelines shouting slogans about a rank and file movement when change is going to happen.

In terms of non drivers there is going to be plenty of work for non drivers on a Saturday including as van assistants because parcels are at their highest on Friday and Saturday.

It is also important to correct that no one will have double the workload to deliver. The principle is :

1st class mail gets delivered to every address 6 days a week. Non priority items will be included when delivering 1st class to an address.

All parcels will delivered to every address 6 days per week.

Tracked and specials will be delivered 6 days per week.

Only DSA,second class and D2D will be delivered every other day. The majority of it sequenced. The average call rate is 48% it is expected to increase to 78%.

The last time call rates were that high was back in 2006.
Are walks going back to how they were in 2006 ? Because I'd be losing a third of my duty to put it back how it was.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by Martin Walsh »

Haha no just the call rate.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by qwerty2 »

claretandblue wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:22
What is a van assistant 🤔
Passenger :thumbup
Perseus
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by Perseus »

Why not just put in Mon-Fri walking only duties. This van assistant role sounds totally unworkable as well as inefficient.
Sounds like a role created to MAKE people work Saturdays when not really needed.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by Rommagic »

At my office the non driver has more houses too deliver.
claretandblue
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Post by claretandblue »

Martin Walsh wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:25
Haha no just the call rate.
So 2006 call rate with a third bigger walk and 100 plus tracked :nana
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by SpacePhoenix »

What have the union been smoking? If 2C, DSA and D2D are going to be every other day then it WILL be double mail every other day. There's so little 1C these days.
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Post by hans solo »

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Martin Walsh wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:16
It is strange that some posts don’t refer to the fact that the Regulator who has watched Royal Mail decline due to unfair competition and E substitution and done nothing.

They are now stating that the USO is financially unsustainable and if it is not this option then it will require a legislation change which will reduce the days the USO is delivered to 3 or 4.

The status quo which is currently not working is not going to remain.

So it would be madness for the CWU to sit on the sidelines shouting slogans about a rank and file movement when change is going to happen.

In terms of non drivers there is going to be plenty of work for non drivers on a Saturday including as van assistants because parcels are at their highest on Friday and Saturday.

It is also important to correct that no one will have double the workload to deliver. The principle is :

1st class mail gets delivered to every address 6 days a week. Non priority items will be included when delivering 1st class to an address.

All parcels will delivered to every address 6 days per week.

Tracked and specials will be delivered 6 days per week.

Only DSA,second class and D2D will be delivered every other day. The majority of it sequenced. The average call rate is 48% it is expected to increase to 78%.

The last time call rates were that high was back in 2006.
😂😂😂😂
hans solo
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by hans solo »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:41
What have the union been smoking? If 2C, DSA and D2D are going to be every other day then it WILL be double mail every other day. There's so little 1C these days.
They havnt got a f***ing clue
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Post by hans solo »

And in 2006 we had about 250 calls
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Post by Perseus »

Double mail, but a jump from 50% to 80% call rate. Our duties can't clear on an 80% call rate at the moment, we are firefighting constantly due to staffing levels, so that gives a look to the future when 80% becomes the norm.
It also sounds like some offices won't feel the effects of this much if they have a lot of rural or business duties.
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Post by Rommagic »

We need a good pay rise.
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Post by hans solo »

We cant complete duties just now
We are maxed out to our finishing time now with the last revisions
And dont mention intentionally shafting scotland with later finish times
Reduce fatigue on delivery ?
Whats the walking person to do to reduce fatigue
Newton mearns pilot - they have reduced walk spans and put o-time in on morning sorts just to push folk out on street
Its all a farce
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by Neverwasadoor »

Martin,
If they are putting extra IPS in and putting walks back in, where is the money saving coming from ?
Which is RMs whole point for this.