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USO update

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enskied
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Re: USO update

Post by enskied »

claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 11:32
The union mentioned making duties smaller to accommodate higher calls rates, has this now been abandoned in favour of longer days and more days off ?
Unachievable duties have just been extended in our revision. So even if the do make them smaller they will still be unachievable.

It's a total stitch up for deliveries. The trial offices will be successful, they will not be allowed to fail until the OFCOM deal is signed off. Then the s**t hits the fan.
claretandblue
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Re: USO update

Post by claretandblue »

enskied wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:19
claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 11:32
The union mentioned making duties smaller to accommodate higher calls rates, has this now been abandoned in favour of longer days and more days off ?
Unachievable duties have just been extended in our revision. So even if the do make them smaller they will still be unachievable.

It's a total stitch up for deliveries. The trial offices will be successful, they will not be allowed to fail until the OFCOM deal is signed off. Then the s**t hits the fan.
We are meant to be going back to mail volumes of 2004, well my paired duty had 4 less loops back then compared to now, and there were no parcels then.
postiewhite
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: USO update

Post by postiewhite »

Staff have had the wool pulled over their eyes. There is at least 15 staff on 35 hours in our office that was under the impression it was a genuine uplift in contract at the time but it never was. I have only just had this uplifted in writing this week even though my payslip has been saying 35 hours basic. So the uplift that was given to us recently is just confirmation to what we were already doing for 3 years

Everyone is going to be royally stitched up. The carrot dangler is the extra Saturday off but we will be doing a hell of a lot more work for it including double D2Ds, double mail, heavier bags and out longer.
Can anyone counteract this with a positive?
ted_e_bear
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Re: USO update

Post by ted_e_bear »

enskied wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:19
claretandblue wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 11:32
The union mentioned making duties smaller to accommodate higher calls rates, has this now been abandoned in favour of longer days and more days off ?
Unachievable duties have just been extended in our revision. So even if the do make them smaller they will still be unachievable.

It's a total stitch up for deliveries. The trial offices will be successful, they will not be allowed to fail until the OFCOM deal is signed off. Then the s**t hits the fan.
Of course they'll be successful, they'll be overstaffed from day one as they said excess staff won't be sent elsewhere so plenty of hands on deck more than the workplan requirements to ensure it goes smoothly, plenty of spare folk to get all d2ds in ready for Monday, I bet they chuck early ips in as well to ensure the 3 days mail every Mon/Tue gets out of the door in good time.

Yeah I'm a cynical old bastard perhaps I'm wrong.
Pidleypoo
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Re: USO update

Post by Pidleypoo »

I might be being thick here but why would having more Saturdays off mean working longer in the week ?

I’m contracted to work 37 hrs a week over 1/6 and Saturdays are our shortest days

So for example if we worked the ours we do mon-fri we’d work more than 37 hours per week.

If I’m also correct that Mondays and Tuesdays would need more time because they’d be essentially 3 days mail then that has to come from the other days making them shorter 🤷‍♂️
claretandblue
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Re: USO update

Post by claretandblue »

Pidleypoo wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:43
I might be being thick here but why would having more Saturdays off mean working longer in the week ?

I’m contracted to work 37 hrs a week over 1/6 and Saturdays are our shortest days

So for example if we worked the ours we do mon-fri we’d work more than 37 hours per week.

If I’m also correct that Mondays and Tuesdays would need more time because they’d be essentially 3 days mail then that has to come from the other days making them shorter 🤷‍♂️
Incorrect, Saturdays have nothing to do with it, 3 days mail means you will be working longer Monday and Tuesday, 2 days mail Wednesday to Friday. 9 day fortnights are the answer.
Londonsburning
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Re: USO update

Post by Londonsburning »

I was more than happy when we were a six day week and our shift patterns were 5am to 11.30am Mon-Sat with a sub 400 call rate Martin :pray
scoobydo79
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Re: USO update

Post by scoobydo79 »

What’s going on with the one big frame offices and the tying up in blocks from top to bottom? Has it been scrapped or on going?
Londonsburning
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Re: USO update

Post by Londonsburning »

scoobydo79 wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 15:06
What’s going on with the one big frame offices and the tying up in blocks from top to bottom? Has it been scrapped or on going?
Delivery 2.0 yeah the pen pushers got that one wrong, but as the old saying goes "Throw enough shite and it begins to stick"
SWIM
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Re: USO update

Post by SWIM »

pension surplus??
'deal of the century' - dingo
Londonsburning
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Re: USO update

Post by Londonsburning »

SWIM wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 15:54
pension surplus??
Pen pushers. I.E. office staff employed to extract the most profit for the business, out of our working schedules as OPGs...
Trumanity
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Re: USO update

Post by Trumanity »

postiewhite wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 14:25
Staff have had the wool pulled over their eyes. There is at least 15 staff on 35 hours in our office that was under the impression it was a genuine uplift in contract at the time but it never was. I have only just had this uplifted in writing this week even though my payslip has been saying 35 hours basic. So the uplift that was given to us recently is just confirmation to what we were already doing for 3 years

Everyone is going to be royally stitched up. The carrot dangler is the extra Saturday off but we will be doing a hell of a lot more work for it including double D2Ds, double mail, heavier bags and out longer.
Can anyone counteract this with a positive?
Yeah I've been under the impression that I was permanently full time for over 4 years and not ppt. The manager at the time said pick the contract not the duty and confirmed it was a permanent change, as did the union rep. btw. They basically lied I got a contract saying pft but then got a second one superseding the first confirming the temporary variation. I wrote back to contracts accepting the first and declining the second but they just ignored that. Bunch of liars! What about those staff who have wrongly applied as full time for financial products like mortgages, loans, etc...? Can't trust this employer one jot :wave
Acca Dacca
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Re: USO update

Post by Acca Dacca »

Londonsburning wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 16:05
SWIM wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 15:54
pension surplus??
Pen pushers. I.E. office staff employed to extract the most profit for the business, out of our working schedules as OPGs...
Yeah I think hes asking Martin about the pension surplus, not anything to do with your post
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Londonsburning
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Re: USO update

Post by Londonsburning »

Acca Dacca wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 16:36
Londonsburning wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 16:05
SWIM wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 15:54
pension surplus??
Pen pushers. I.E. office staff employed to extract the most profit for the business, out of our working schedules as OPGs...
Yeah I think hes asking Martin about the pension surplus, not anything to do with your post
My mistake.
scotchy1962
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: USO update

Post by scotchy1962 »

I try to give the benefit of the doubt and not be too cynical about these statements, but when i read about manageable workloads, fatigue, etc i can't help but wonder what on earth you are on about.
There's very little to nothing since privatisation that suggests this company give a flying feck about my workload and physical wellbeing.
Otherwise why would they have made all the duties oversized in the first place, they don't care if i can complete in my time as long as the tracked get done, and two and three days mail is the norm nowadays.
If they really cared the duties would be shortened, they would recognise how physical the job has become and figure a way to alleviate that.
Making the duties longer to give us more saturdays off, while sounding great, will probably be too much for some of us and the rest of you will pay for it in the future when your bodies age.
These delivery companies need brought to heel and made to treat their workers better.