Universal Service Comms

[Chelseablue]

Yes Martin tell us all about the point of how you reduce fatigue and still not got an answer. Longer delivery spans , older workforce = forcing us out ? I might be wrong,,

[oypostie]

"15. Your call rate on the days you deliver all the mail will rise from the average 58% to 78%. So you will go to more houses on your rout"

78% seems low to me for up to 3 days mail regardless that's a near 50% increase in work load every single day of the week for the same pay! If we are all doing 50% more work, as I assume "Evi" will be doing similar, then surely that means RM will need 50% less staff to deliver it in future?
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But does this call rate include cD2Ds ? My guess is it doesn't. at least not based on the new number of days to deliver them. On one of the two duties you will only have two days to deliver them so unless the rules are changed you are already looking at a 50% call rate before a single letter is added

[menditsa]

Yes Martin tell us all about the point of how you reduce fatigue and still not got an answer. Longer delivery spans , older workforce = forcing us out ? I might be wrong,,

And don't forget all the "Newbies" on 30 hour contracts who's "Advertised" jobs ie: 9am - 3.30pm are now having to work 1pm - 7.30pm as their actual contract states working times of 6am to 10pm as needed. That's why so many are leaving.

[SpacePhoenix]

No space in mail centres so it will have to go to delivery offices? Of course we have acres of unused space.

It's either send the 2C on to the DOs or we turn the lorries away with the inward. We've not got the capacity to store 2 days worth of 2C and accept the inward from other MCs. The alternative is that the outward 2C gets processed and sent off to the RDCs, before we touch the inward, which would have to be sent out later

Hopefully your MC gets shut down soon then as it doesn't sound fit for purpose.

So would you want some DOs to be starting a lot later? That would happen if we got shut down. I doubt that any neighbouring MC would have the capacity to take on our work

[Edward Hunter]

You put all your door to doors in on Monday and Tuesday. Deliver when you get live mail. If you carry a few delivery points over until the next week thats fine.It works now and should work in the future. Because of the increased call rate,delivery sizes SHOULD end up being reduced. IU saw that on a RM propaganda video

[GRS]

Where do you want to start Belgium , Germany , Australia, Sweden , Denmark to name just a few but only Malta and the UK now have a 6 day USO.

So let’s get this right. The reason we are changing the USO is actually nothing to do with letter/parcel volumes or the needs of the British public etc etc but because a host of other countries have slashed their service. WTF!!!!!

[tramssirhc]

Martin do you still hold an OPG duty?

No Martin doesn't. He hasn't for many years. Martin is employed by the CWU members.

[Dingo99]

You put all your door to doors in on Monday and Tuesday. Deliver when you get live mail. If you carry a few delivery points over until the next week thats fine.It works now and should work in the future. Because of the increased call rate,delivery sizes SHOULD end up being reduced. IU saw that on a RM propaganda video

Righto, start on time every day and finish on time everyday, I simply do not have time to prep door to doors, I came back to DO 25 mins early today and after 20 mins got about a 1/4 of a row in (4 lots), I won't start prepping before time like most of the numpties I work alogside "as we get paid for them".

[GRS]

Dress it up how you want but this means huge job losses. God knows where this 2,600 number is coming from. Does the union seriously think that RM would be undergoing such an upheaval just to get rid of 2,600 people. You’re having the wool pulled over your eyes. 3 people covering 4 rounds means 1 in 4 is not needed so this equals a 25% reduction in staff numbers!!!!!

[SpacePhoenix]

Dress it up how you want but this means huge job losses. God knows where this 2,600 number is coming from. Does the union seriously think that RM would be undergoing such an upheaval just to get rid of 2,600 people. You’re having the wool pulled over your eyes. 3 people covering 4 rounds means 1 in 4 is not needed so this equals a 25% reduction in staff numbers!!!!!

Not necessarily, some DOs won't have enough staff so the DOs with excess staff, will probably have the excess staff compulsory transferred to DOs who are short on staff

[GRS]

Re: Drivers doing the tracked & 1C across 2 duties. Has or will an impact study be carried out to see the effect on a person’s body who will be getting in & out of a van from anything to 200-400 times a day? Not a decent van but a 15 year old Combo whose arse is on the floor. To be leveraging yourself out of one of those god knows how many times a week is going to cause some major problems with knees & hips. Funny how you never see DPD or Amazon drivers going round in something so small & awkward.

[GRS]

Dress it up how you want but this means huge job losses. God knows where this 2,600 number is coming from. Does the union seriously think that RM would be undergoing such an upheaval just to get rid of 2,600 people. You’re having the wool pulled over your eyes. 3 people covering 4 rounds means 1 in 4 is not needed so this equals a 25% reduction in staff numbers!!!!!

Not necessarily, some DOs won't have enough staff so the DOs with excess staff, will probably have the excess staff compulsory transferred to DOs who are short on staff

I see what you’re saying but to me this USO change is nothing but an excuse to cull the headcount. There will be massive job losses over the next couple of years.

[Acca Dacca]

Dress it up how you want but this means huge job losses. God knows where this 2,600 number is coming from. Does the union seriously think that RM would be undergoing such an upheaval just to get rid of 2,600 people. You’re having the wool pulled over your eyes. 3 people covering 4 rounds means 1 in 4 is not needed so this equals a 25% reduction in staff numbers!!!!!

You have to remember though that there is a difference in losing people and losing jobs

This method WILL mean a reduced headcount as there will be less jobs but the plan is after the VRs have been given out that the remainder to be lost through people leaving naturally retirement/sick/another job and not being replaced rather than people who want a job being forced out through compulsory redundancy

[SpacePhoenix]

Dress it up how you want but this means huge job losses. God knows where this 2,600 number is coming from. Does the union seriously think that RM would be undergoing such an upheaval just to get rid of 2,600 people. You’re having the wool pulled over your eyes. 3 people covering 4 rounds means 1 in 4 is not needed so this equals a 25% reduction in staff numbers!!!!!

Not necessarily, some DOs won't have enough staff so the DOs with excess staff, will probably have the excess staff compulsory transferred to DOs who are short on staff

I see what you’re saying but to me this USO change is nothing but an excuse to cull the headcount. There will be massive job losses over the next couple of years.

How many staff are on contracts which don't include driving? If you've got 3 people covering 4 walks, then RM are going to need a much higher % of staff who can drive as they'll need to be able to cover both sick and holidays

[tramssirhc]

Re: Drivers doing the tracked & 1C across 2 duties. Has or will an impact study be carried out to see the effect on a person’s body who will be getting in & out of a van from anything to 200-400 times a day? Not a decent van but a 15 year old Combo whose arse is on the floor. To be leveraging yourself out of one of those god knows how many times a week is going to cause some major problems with knees & hips. Funny how you never see DPD or Amazon drivers going round in something so small & awkward.

You think the CWU give a s**t? Absolutely the equipment isn't fit for purpose. Maybe you could tell the Area Safety Reps who no one ever sees despite them being on full time release. The ones who ignore the safety issues.