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Non Drivers

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claretandblue
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by claretandblue »

The true non drivers in our office have 25 years plus in, there are others who can drive, but choose not to. There will be plenty of Mon to Fri to pick from.
Dingo99
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Dingo99 »

claretandblue wrote:
19 Jan 2025, 20:24
jessicarabbit wrote:
19 Jan 2025, 20:18
There will need to be a real solution to this issue....and not one that comes from either RM or CWU. If non drivers are guaranteed Mon-Fri duties then I along with 90% of the legacy pre 2010 members will just politely decline to bring their drivers license in for its annual 6 months check I will have to be accommodated along with all the others who either can't/won't drive for RM. They can't sack us/pay us all off so a solution will be found.
If you're pre 2010 you should have enough seniority to pick a Mon to Fri.
I'm Dec 2009 but my seniority only starts from 2013 as I was on rolling contracts with Angard for so long.
kazardaimenu
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by kazardaimenu »

They could do a bit of ips and parcel sorting every other Saturday then out with a barrow full of mail the rest of the time.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Acca Dacca »

kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 16:35
They could do a bit of ips and parcel sorting every other Saturday then out with a barrow full of mail the rest of the time.
A barrow full of first class mail would total one barrow for the full office and would cover the entire postcode
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Barnacle
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Barnacle »

kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 16:35
They could do a bit of ips and parcel sorting every other Saturday then out with a barrow full of mail the rest of the time.
There are definitely things they could be doing, just takes a manager with imagination or a manager to have the thought said to them in a way that makes them think it was their idea.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Acca Dacca wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 17:00
kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 16:35
They could do a bit of ips and parcel sorting every other Saturday then out with a barrow full of mail the rest of the time.
A barrow full of first class mail would total one barrow for the full office and would cover the entire postcode
How many walks worth of D2D could they get prepped in that time?
Dingo99
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Dingo99 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 19:38
Acca Dacca wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 17:00
kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 16:35
They could do a bit of ips and parcel sorting every other Saturday then out with a barrow full of mail the rest of the time.
A barrow full of first class mail would total one barrow for the full office and would cover the entire postcode
How many walks worth of D2D could they get prepped in that time?
Depends how many D2D's thee are, even just having 2 leaflets takes ages if you do it right by not nesting, so time consuming, how many times have we been told they will all come in one envelope? The USPS do this for e.g, would save so much time.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Dingo99 wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 20:09
how many times have we been told they will all come in one envelope? The USPS do this for e.g, would save so much time.
It would be even better if RM were to work with the companies to have them all addressed and machine sortable, then we could sequence them. If that were to happen, would that save much time in DOs?
Perseus
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Perseus »

People won't be scheduled to come in on a Saturday to sort door to doors or walk a huge area with a small bundle of 1C letters :left:
Rve83ndxd
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Rve83ndxd »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 21:08
Dingo99 wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 20:09
how many times have we been told they will all come in one envelope? The USPS do this for e.g, would save so much time.
It would be even better if RM were to work with the companies to have them all addressed and machine sortable, then we could sequence them. If that were to happen, would that save much time in DOs?
None. :crazy:
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Rve83ndxd wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 21:26
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 21:08
Dingo99 wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 20:09
how many times have we been told they will all come in one envelope? The USPS do this for e.g, would save so much time.
It would be even better if RM were to work with the companies to have them all addressed and machine sortable, then we could sequence them. If that were to happen, would that save much time in DOs?
None. :crazy:
They could tweak the DTS system so that a certain % get released each day
world class male
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by world class male »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 08:41
Barnacle wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 08:08
There are a minority of non-drivers in each office and they need to be protected from being forced out of a job, just because a lazy manager can’t think of duty hours for them or can’t see them doing anything in the new version of RM. They may or may not have every Saturday off, but they are hardly in a comfortable position.
They might be made supernumerary and moved to another office. Back when we had a realignment, before they got found other duties within the MC the supernumerary were going to be moved out to various DOs. they wouldn't have had any say or choice in the matter. It would have been they moved or they had no job.
would guess if this did happen (which i doubt) then they would have to pay a relocation fee, which kinda defeats the object
i know of a few at ours who got moved here from another office donkeys years ago got a decent craic p/w for 2 or 3 years and actually lived even closer!
Crowseer
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Crowseer »

Anyone working in the trial offices have an update on this problem? Ie actual information rather than opinions. Not being confrontational here, im genuinely curious if anyone actually knows. Ive asked around and neither management or union have a clue about it. Literally no idea at all. Not even guesses. In fact our union rep laughed out loud when I asked him and followed it with "no idea, I think they're having meetings about it" which isn't ideal considering its being rolled out as we speak. So theyre either so inept that they haven't thought about it at all or they're lying about it all. Both options are equally possible.
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

Crowseer wrote:
07 Feb 2025, 12:19
Anyone working in the trial offices have an update on this problem? Ie actual information rather than opinions. Not being confrontational here, im genuinely curious if anyone actually knows. Ive asked around and neither management or union have a clue about it. Literally no idea at all. Not even guesses. In fact our union rep laughed out loud when I asked him and followed it with "no idea, I think they're having meetings about it" which isn't ideal considering its being rolled out as we speak. So theyre either so inept that they haven't thought about it at all or they're lying about it all. Both options are equally possible.
It's not being rolled out.
Not even all the trial offices have started yet.
Crowseer
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Re: Non Drivers

Post by Crowseer »

Thanks for the reply. I was told they start this week with trials lasting through Feb and march with a view to rolling it out to other offices from April-June. It's only hearsay but it came from a fairy reliable source who knows the manager in our area earmarked for rolling it out (on a social basis). A couple of managers in our office have indicated it's likely to be "sooner rather than later" Its coming. They've invested too much money and time on it. I wouldn't want to say more than that in case the manager that told me gets identified. He's one of the few decent managers we have.