Not so long ago people would stay out and complete but those days are gone.
The company don't seem interested in the slightest with engaging with staff to make it happen
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Stay out and complete?!
A good number of us aren't finishing til 5pm, and only getting ½ the duty and all 150+ tracked and specials done.
I can only vouch for singletons, the van shares have been in a much worse mess every day and not just in peak
2 years ago, pre 2023 disaster revision, yes an hour or two each day in December was enough to complete with a small sense of job satisfaction to boot.
No amount of engagement can fix the problem of the vast majority of us having far more to do than is humanly possible.
Single van duties are clearing, van shares are a mess, HCT's are pretty much the same all year round due to their limited capacity.
Many duties that can complete 11 months of the year and used to do Xmas Overtime to clear don't do it anymore due to later finishes etc, although many staff have stopped doing overtime on principle.
It's a hole Royal Mail management have dug for themselves. They cut staff and made the rounds so big that on a normal day completing was difficult. Now its xmas and they HAVE NOT GOT THE CAPACITY to do it. It is a ridiculous notion for them to think that the job at Christmas is achievable. I for one don't see any reason why I should go way over each day to sort out the mess for a company that treats its employees like cattle.
Forgetting the whole reason why your customers tip you this time of year, it’s meant to be difficult, fair enough cut off during the year but this has become pathetic, pre covid I regularly did 60 hour weeks in December 2 clear, directionless management, self serving union and now a delusional workforce afraid to be working class
1. The tip is generally given as thanks for your service during the year - its an end of the year thing not just because xmas is tough
2. Well done you doing 60 hours a week - cant call ourselves working class if not prepared to be a hero like you
Means putting in a shift no matter what, it’s folly to believe the tip is anything other than a token for Xmas, service thru the year, 4 hour delivery spans and no OT from most on here these days
Word on the street is it's chaos everywhere. Not a word from the CWU though. If I was running a company and I didn't want to be tied to work that was governed by legislation I'd create chaos. It'd give me the proof I needed to say to the body providing the work covered by the legislation that it simply isn't possible anymore. Christmas 2025 won't look anything like Christmas 2024, nor will the job. Meanwhile the CWU says nothing.
Not sure if it's just in Northern Ireland or if it's the mainland as well, we are absolutely swamped with parcels and we are not talking sensible levels we are talking 2 to 3 times what we have ever experienced, amazon seem to have done the usual and dumped what they can't cope with but the amount is scary, there doesn't seem to be any last lorry as they just keep coming and yesterday our special deliveries didn't make it down from the mail centre until the afternoon. I haven't seen anything like it and they have already started asking about sunday working to clear the mail.
I am seeing no way of me delivering any meaningful mail if this continues up to xmas and i don't work sundays or o/t, i will leave it in the hands of my manager to solve this conundrum.
Really just checking it's not just us.
Have never ever seen mc so rammed really do pity those on delivery.heard yday drivers were bulking out an leave specials.
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It's a hole Royal Mail management have dug for themselves. They cut staff and made the rounds so big that on a normal day completing was difficult. Now its xmas and they HAVE NOT GOT THE CAPACITY to do it. It is a ridiculous notion for them to think that the job at Christmas is achievable. I for one don't see any reason why I should go way over each day to sort out the mess for a company that treats its employees like cattle.
Forgetting the whole reason why your customers tip you this time of year, it’s meant to be difficult, fair enough cut off during the year but this has become pathetic, pre covid I regularly did 60 hour weeks in December 2 clear, directionless management, self serving union and now a delusional workforce afraid to be working class
1. The tip is generally given as thanks for your service during the year - its an end of the year thing not just because xmas is tough
2. Well done you doing 60 hours a week - cant call ourselves working class if not prepared to be a hero like you
Means putting in a shift no matter what, it’s folly to believe the tip is anything other than a token for Xmas, service thru the year, 4 hour delivery spans and no OT from most on here these days
Its nothing to do with the volume over xmas fro 99.9% of people giving tips
Maybe yours say that to you right enough...
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
It's a hole Royal Mail management have dug for themselves. They cut staff and made the rounds so big that on a normal day completing was difficult. Now its xmas and they HAVE NOT GOT THE CAPACITY to do it. It is a ridiculous notion for them to think that the job at Christmas is achievable. I for one don't see any reason why I should go way over each day to sort out the mess for a company that treats its employees like cattle.
Forgetting the whole reason why your customers tip you this time of year, it’s meant to be difficult, fair enough cut off during the year but this has become pathetic, pre covid I regularly did 60 hour weeks in December 2 clear, directionless management, self serving union and now a delusional workforce afraid to be working class
1. The tip is generally given as thanks for your service during the year - its an end of the year thing not just because xmas is tough
2. Well done you doing 60 hours a week - cant call ourselves working class if not prepared to be a hero like you
Means putting in a shift no matter what, it’s folly to believe the tip is anything other than a token for Xmas, service thru the year, 4 hour delivery spans and no OT from most on here these days
Hahahaha "it's meant to be difficult" got to be quote of the year. I think you will find it's meant to be achievable in the first place.
What a hero you are and thanks for abusing all us who don't or can't work to your standards, i expect this time next year you will be in upper management where you belong.
It's a hole Royal Mail management have dug for themselves. They cut staff and made the rounds so big that on a normal day completing was difficult. Now its xmas and they HAVE NOT GOT THE CAPACITY to do it. It is a ridiculous notion for them to think that the job at Christmas is achievable. I for one don't see any reason why I should go way over each day to sort out the mess for a company that treats its employees like cattle.
Forgetting the whole reason why your customers tip you this time of year, it’s meant to be difficult, fair enough cut off during the year but this has become pathetic, pre covid I regularly did 60 hour weeks in December 2 clear, directionless management, self serving union and now a delusional workforce afraid to be working class
1. The tip is generally given as thanks for your service during the year - its an end of the year thing not just because xmas is tough
2. Well done you doing 60 hours a week - cant call ourselves working class if not prepared to be a hero like you
Means putting in a shift no matter what, it’s folly to believe the tip is anything other than a token for Xmas, service thru the year, 4 hour delivery spans and no OT from most on here these days
Hahahaha "it's meant to be difficult" got to be quote of the year. I think you will find it's meant to be achievable in the first place.
What a hero you are and thanks for abusing all us who don't or can't work to your standards, i expect this time next year you will be in upper management where you belong.
Only place upper management belong is in the jail Scotchy
Word on the street is it's chaos everywhere. Not a word from the CWU though. If I was running a company and I didn't want to be tied to work that was governed by legislation I'd create chaos. It'd give me the proof I needed to say to the body providing the work covered by the legislation that it simply isn't possible anymore. Christmas 2025 won't look anything like Christmas 2024, nor will the job. Meanwhile the CWU says nothing.
Seriously wtf do you want cwu to do???
Anything, something. Imagine a situation where all the full time release lazy bag avoiders did what the employers management do at this time of year - get out on the bag and help out.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Word on the street is it's chaos everywhere. Not a word from the CWU though. If I was running a company and I didn't want to be tied to work that was governed by legislation I'd create chaos. It'd give me the proof I needed to say to the body providing the work covered by the legislation that it simply isn't possible anymore. Christmas 2025 won't look anything like Christmas 2024, nor will the job. Meanwhile the CWU says nothing.
Seriously wtf do you want cwu to do???
Imagine a world where you got all the benefits of being on the payroll, like a Christmas bonus, but didn't have to do any of the work. Welcome to the world of a full time paid release CWU bag avoider. What a life!
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
It's a hole Royal Mail management have dug for themselves. They cut staff and made the rounds so big that on a normal day completing was difficult. Now its xmas and they HAVE NOT GOT THE CAPACITY to do it. It is a ridiculous notion for them to think that the job at Christmas is achievable. I for one don't see any reason why I should go way over each day to sort out the mess for a company that treats its employees like cattle.
extra money, my body hurts but il get through it. i work 10-12 hour days. still don’t complete. some rounds are getting 2 people on them to clear it but they still fail, even on tracked as they’re inexperienced, don’t want to stay out in the dark, the rounds are way too big.
It’s all deliberate and the CWU are complicit, the company want the uso changed, why would they fix anything right now .This is Royal Mail saying we can’t go on like this unless there are changes, whether the changes coming next year improve anything is anyone’s guess.
