Who believes mail volumes are falling?

[Phantom]

If mail volumes are falling why are more and more private mail operators setting up? would enter a declining market? I know I wouldn't. So there is bullshit somewhere.

[theflyingpostman]

Non machinable items might be a small percentage of the total mail in your MC, but in Mount Pleasant, the
majority of incoming International Mail is non machinable, and we are receiving increasing amounts of
online purchased packet mail from places like Hong Kong.

My point about DSA is that as I understand it DSA mail comes in presorted and does not go through RM
machines and would not show up on your figures. Correct me if I have got that wrong, I haven't worked
on the Mech for over 20 years, and I don't think we actually get much if any DSA mail at Mount Pleasant.

DSA does go through our machines (if it's machinable). I don't think there's any attempt by Mail Centres not to put mail through the machines (at least in our area).

Some of the Access Mail can't be put through the machines for one reason or another (eg the envelope is too shiny or the envelope is an unusual shape or is plastic).

I used to work on the LSMs & MTTs and most of the DSA mail that I'm manually sorting on the IPS wouldn't in my judgment be machinable.

[Phantom]

If mail volumes are falling why are more and more private mail operators setting up? would you enter a declining market? I know I wouldn't. So there is bullshit somewhere.

[theflyingpostman]

If mail volumes are falling why are more and more private mail operators setting up? would enter a declining market? I know I wouldn't. So there is bullshit somewhere.

Because they want to cherry pick the parts of the mail market that are profitable and require no work on their part i.e. our Mailsort products.

[Tman]

Don't be so stupid

Good reply, I'm sure. Care to expand?

[axeman]

Good on figgures do they give you those ? mr tman........................

[Tman]

No, I get them myself, and that's how I know volumes are decreasing.
Feel free to believe there's some great conspiracy theory here though, if it fits in with what you wish to believe.

[Phantom]

No, I get them myself, and that's how I know volumes are decreasing.
Feel free to believe there's some great conspiracy theory here though, if it fits in with what you wish to believe.

Let see, if you are right then that would mean i would have less mail to deliver, yes? if so i should be prepping and leaving the delivery office ealier than i was 6 months ago.

So why is this not happening? and why am i able to cut off on certain days due to high mail volumes?

[rhino49]

.............maybe the volume has fallen but due to the fact that the reduction of staffing hours and re-allocation of duties has been accelerated to the point where we haven't enough staff long before RM planned that we wouldn't need them, we have less mail but appear to have more.

For instance - in my office we have part timers replacing full timers, the loss of several full time walks and condensing of others over the last few years and generally we are working harder than we used to. The mail mix contains more heavy items as RM's policy on pricing by size has come into effect (bad move in my eyes), so we are taking out the same weight or more but it is no easier to prep as many items are awkward to put into rm2000 frames and slow us down. All in all our efficiency has been reduced by our company policies but we are still expected to constantly improve to meet almost impossible delivery standards.

[Tman]

Ever get the feeling you're living some sort of Groundhog Day?
I don't know why you, your mate, the postie in the next town or anyone else says they have more mail than ever before, and strangely, I couldn't give a monkey's either.
I'm just responding to the posts that have said "mail volumes are increasing, and the amount I now carry proves it" when in reality it proves absolutely nothing of the kind.
Mail processed per shift is one item of statistical information I see every day, along with per week and per month. Those stats are outputted from the processing machines themselves, onto a PC screen or printer which I look at.
All the conspiracy theorists are welcome to believe those stats have been doctored in some way, or there are management moles hiding in the machine's nether regions, or whatever other dumbarse ideas people get to refute the facts, but there it is- mail volumes are falling and have been for some time.
I don't know any other way to continually put over the same point, but to be constantly told that "my bag is heavier therefore mail volumes aren't falling, therefore you're wrong" merely reinforces the idea that many in RM have no real concept of what goes on outside of thier own little DO. Sad, really.

[DGP1]

According to the figures given to us by the managers in my DO our volumes have GONE UP BY 10000 per day (average) since SDD, now if that means that my volumes are falling then I'd like whatever you're smoking.

[BELIAL]

Ever get the feeling you're living some sort of Groundhog Day?
I don't know why you, your mate, the postie in the next town or anyone else says they have more mail than ever before, and strangely, I couldn't give a monkey's either.
I'm just responding to the posts that have said "mail volumes are increasing, and the amount I now carry proves it" when in reality it proves absolutely nothing of the kind.
Mail processed per shift is one item of statistical information I see every day, along with per week and per month. Those stats are outputted from the processing machines themselves, onto a PC screen or printer which I look at.
All the conspiracy theorists are welcome to believe those stats have been doctored in some way, or there are management moles hiding in the machine's nether regions, or whatever other dumbarse ideas people get to refute the facts, but there it is- mail volumes are falling and have been for some time.
I don't know any other way to continually put over the same point, but to be constantly told that "my bag is heavier therefore mail volumes aren't falling, therefore you're wrong" merely reinforces the idea that many in RM have no real concept of what goes on outside of thier own little DO. Sad, really.

You gotta start asking yourself some questions. One man and his machine is doing less ,everyone else is sorting , prepping , delivering more,better get an engineer to look at your machine

[Night Tonic]

I just pray that the pie eater doesn't tackle negotations as misinformed as many seem to be. Mail volume is what WE process - not what we handle, and it is down. Still, put your name down for the union negotiating team- you've nowt to lose.

[BELIAL]

Ah apportionment, process,handle it all gets delivered by us. Just know I'll be accused of being anti semantic

[DGP1]

I just pray that the pie eater doesn't tackle negotations as misinformed as many seem to be. Mail volume is what WE process - not what we handle, and it is down. Still, put your name down for the union neotiating team- you've nowt to lose.

You can spin it whatever way you want but what about the extra 10000 per day the my DO is delivering?? How can it be less? Handle or volume we still have to deliver it and it is extra.

Maybe the poll should be 'Are we delivering more post?' to clear up any confusion.