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Furious Wigan residents 'missing hospital appointments' on streets with 'no post for months'

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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... s-29756788

Claims housing estate has not been getting regular deliveries for two-and-a-half months

Some residents on a 900-home housing estate in Wigan claim they are missing hospital appointments because of the failure of the Royal Mail to deliver their post regularly.

Several homeowners on the Rothwells Farm development in Golborne have lodged official complaints to the company. The Royal Mail has now admitted there have been ‘some recent issues with resourcing’ due to higher levels of sick absence’ at a delivery office which have hampered postal deliveries.

A spokesperson said: “We would reassure residents that we have measures in place to keep resulting delays to a minimum.”

They also said yesterday (August 16) deliveries are ‘currently clear’ with letters posted towards the end of last week. The residents’ cause has been taken up by Golborne and West Lowton Coun Gena Merrett and Leigh MP Jo Platt.

Coun Merrett said households had not been receiving regular postal deliveries since May. She said: “They have been told that they have no post person for the estate and that they have to collect their post from the Newton-le-Willows sorting office.

“This office only opens a couple of hours per day during the week and it is no easy task to pick it up. The only time they seem to get deliveries is when the post builds up in the sorting office and they need to clear it out.

“Under the terms of the Royal Mail’s government contract, all residents are promised a universal postal service, so this is completely unacceptable and it’s now been going on for two-and-a-half months.”

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Councillor Merrett also said residents had been treated in an ‘off-hand manner’ when visiting the sorting office. “One said: ‘You’re not helping yourselves by coming and mithering - you’re slowing us down’,” she claimed.

On Facebook, she called it 'the housing estate the Royal Mail has forgotten', saying residents had issued a plea to the company to restore their postal service as many had had no deliveries since May. One of the residents who has complained is Smantha Mazfari who has set up a WhatsApp group of disgruntled customers.

“Twenty people messaged me last night and we’ve now got the ball rolling by making official complaints,” she said. “People have missed hospital appointments and one of the group got a parking fine, but because she didn’t get the letter soon enough, she had to pay the full amount.”

She said there had always been an issue with the post for the estate, which is about five years old. The addresses affected by the problem include houses on Farm Croft Drive, Edwards Trumble Meadow, Farm Croft, Rothwell Gardens, North Meadow Close, McKenna Close, and East Meadow Close.

The full extent of the residents’ and the Coun Merrett’s complaints were put to the Royal Mail press office by the Local Democracy Reporting Service. Their spokesperson’s full response was: “We can confirm deliveries to Rothwell Gardens Estate are currently clear with deliveries being carried out yesterday and today. There is no further mail to be delivered.

“There have been some recent issues with resourcing due to higher levels of sick absence at the delivery office. We would reassure residents that we have measures in place to keep resulting delays to a minimum.”
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They also said yesterday (August 16) deliveries are ‘currently clear’ with letters posted towards the end of last week
So what on earth does that mean ? Is all this weeks mail still under the frame ? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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oypostie wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 17:14
They also said yesterday (August 16) deliveries are ‘currently clear’ with letters posted towards the end of last week
So what on earth does that mean ? Is all this weeks mail still under the frame ? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
OFCOM should start fining managers who take the decision to prioritise parcels over mail.
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Barnacle wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 19:53
oypostie wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 17:14
They also said yesterday (August 16) deliveries are ‘currently clear’ with letters posted towards the end of last week
So what on earth does that mean ? Is all this weeks mail still under the frame ? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
OFCOM should start fining managers who take the decision to prioritise parcels over mail.
There's more chance of the CWU getting us a decent pay rise than OFCOM taking any strong action to sort out the USO, you sense the next we'll hear from them is that having taken feedback they can confirm that they'll support the proposed changes to the USO.
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TopperGas wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 20:00
Barnacle wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 19:53
oypostie wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 17:14
They also said yesterday (August 16) deliveries are ‘currently clear’ with letters posted towards the end of last week
So what on earth does that mean ? Is all this weeks mail still under the frame ? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
OFCOM should start fining managers who take the decision to prioritise parcels over mail.
There's more chance of the CWU getting us a decent pay rise than OFCOM taking any strong action to sort out the USO, you sense the next we'll hear from them is that having taken feedback they can confirm that they'll support the proposed changes to the USO.
Martin Walsh in his latest YouTube was virtually saying that ‘everyone else is doing it (reducing the USO) so why not us too?’ 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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TopperGas wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 20:00
Barnacle wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 19:53
oypostie wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 17:14
They also said yesterday (August 16) deliveries are ‘currently clear’ with letters posted towards the end of last week
So what on earth does that mean ? Is all this weeks mail still under the frame ? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
OFCOM should start fining managers who take the decision to prioritise parcels over mail.
There's more chance of the CWU getting us a decent pay rise than OFCOM taking any strong action to sort out the USO, you sense the next we'll hear from them is that having taken feedback they can confirm that they'll support the proposed changes to the USO.
Yeah too right plus I predict the next pay deal will involve the loss of more of the "perks" we're fortunate enough to have like paid breaks.
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Barnacle wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 20:02
Martin Walsh in his latest YouTube was virtually saying that ‘everyone else is doing it (reducing the USO) so why not us too?’ 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Someone start a rumour saying everyone is jumping off bridges. I want to hold him to this logic.
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Barnacle wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 20:02

OFCOM should start fining managers who take the decision to prioritise parcels over mail.



For a second there I thought you said "firing" which would probably be a more effective strategy.

OfCom have gone from fining RM last year to then accepting their narrative that the USO should be watered down with a load of proposals that would save the company money. We are still waiting for OfCom's summer update on RM's proposal (that wouldn't require any changes set by the current USO) with 2nd class mail to be delivered every other weekday and 1st class still delivered 6 days a week.

Obviously any reduction in delivering letters from 6 days a week to 5 can only be made by the UK government and parliament and with the takeover still in effect it probably isn't likely that this will happen this year.

Also, I'm surprised how any regulator would allow politicians being allowed to present political TV programmes like GB News. It has been revealed that Nigel Farage earns almost £1.2 million presenting this programme on top of his earnings for writing articles for the Daily Telegraph....
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postslippete wrote: ↑
18 Aug 2024, 07:52
Barnacle wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 20:02

OFCOM should start fining managers who take the decision to prioritise parcels over mail.



For a second there I thought you said "firing" which would probably be a more effective strategy.

OfCom have gone from fining RM last year to then accepting their narrative that the USO should be watered down with a load of proposals that would save the company money. We are still waiting for OfCom's summer update on RM's proposal (that wouldn't require any changes set by the current USO) with 2nd class mail to be delivered every other weekday and 1st class still delivered 6 days a week.

Obviously any reduction in delivering letters from 6 days a week to 5 can only be made by the UK government and parliament and with the takeover still in effect it probably isn't likely that this will happen this year.

Also, I'm surprised how any regulator would allow politicians being allowed to present political TV programmes like GB News. It has been revealed that Nigel Farage earns almost £1.2 million presenting this programme on top of his earnings for writing articles for the Daily Telegraph....
In a recent article about RM - might have been the one about the lockers - it stated that RM are trying to remove USO decisions from requiring parliamentary agreement. Of course they are. As if that could be allowed to happen 🙄
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postslippete wrote: ↑
18 Aug 2024, 07:52
We are still waiting for OfCom's summer update on RM's proposal (that wouldn't require any changes set by the current USO) with 2nd class mail to be delivered every other weekday and 1st class still delivered 6 days a week.
That will result in us sending the 1st class through to the DOs as manual every other day as it won't be worth running the machines just for what little 1C there is
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ted_e_bear wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 20:18
TopperGas wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 20:00
Barnacle wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 19:53
oypostie wrote: ↑
17 Aug 2024, 17:14
They also said yesterday (August 16) deliveries are ‘currently clear’ with letters posted towards the end of last week
So what on earth does that mean ? Is all this weeks mail still under the frame ? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
OFCOM should start fining managers who take the decision to prioritise parcels over mail.
There's more chance of the CWU getting us a decent pay rise than OFCOM taking any strong action to sort out the USO, you sense the next we'll hear from them is that having taken feedback they can confirm that they'll support the proposed changes to the USO.
Yeah too right plus I predict the next pay deal will involve the loss of more of the "perks" we're fortunate enough to have like paid breaks.
The way Labour is agreeing deal at the moment they'll probably hand us a few perks back if the CWU asks for them!!
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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
18 Aug 2024, 10:52

That will result in us sending the 1st class through to the DOs as manual every other day as it won't be worth running the machines just for what little 1C there is


Would be interesting to see how this plays out if it's the case. I wonder if RM prefer to run the machines every other day for the 2nd class and perhaps employ extra staff or have extra working hours on those days?
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postslippete wrote: ↑
18 Aug 2024, 19:39
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
18 Aug 2024, 10:52

That will result in us sending the 1st class through to the DOs as manual every other day as it won't be worth running the machines just for what little 1C there is


Would be interesting to see how this plays out if it's the case. I wonder if RM prefer to run the machines every other day for the 2nd class and perhaps employ extra staff or have extra working hours on those days?
Probably less casuals on "non-mech days" with us mech staff working in the inward packet area instead
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Thing is... The management know where the test letters are, ofcom tell them. So they pull them out of the third wave. Job done