Unions stance on non delivery of mail over parcels

[guardianangel]

Its happening again Royal Mail managers riding roughshod over their legal requirements to deliver to every house everyday,my understanding being the legislation hasn't changed yet and they are required by law to do this. Should these managers face the sack for total disregard for the law or are they going to get away with it again,seems to me they are saving millions to please the shareholders and fill their pockets yet again,have ofcom and the MP's been notified,would be interesting to here Dave's thoughts or does he condone these illegalities,the pressure on posties is immense at this time so will the union sit back and let their members suffer yet again.

[Phantom]

Forget Ofcom, they are not fit for purpose. Write to your MP and explain the situation.

[Jb1969]

Forget Ofcom, they are not fit for purpose. Write to your MP and explain the situation.

That way your MP can make an appointment to goto Delivery Office around 10ish, find office clear & delivery guys/girls can bring it back at 2ish.
That or sling it in back of 600!
But completely agree with Ofcom, spineless in every sense.

[Barnacle]

Managers have stopped logging mail fails. They get you to take it all out, are disappearing out of the office when you return with bundles, and don’t note anything down in the morning before you have framed it in again.

[postslippete]

In response to the title thread - the Union's stance according to Martin Walsh is that the six day universal service obligation is no longer financially viable and they would be willing to support the delivery of letters 5 days a week. In the joint statement with Royal Mail earlier this year the CWU agreed to find a balance between improving quality of service and the overall financial position of the company. This states where a delivery route or part of the route is not covered on any given day then it must be covered the next working day to ensure any delay in delivery is for the maximum of ONE day. There are plans in place via resource meetings with the Union if walks start failing more than 2 days in a row.

So whilst RM keep putting the postage on letters up, they are also giving the public an even worse service and managers are often doing this deliberately by purposely not fully staffing the duties. These duties are not covered and the mail is planned to fail for that delivery on that day, which means that there will be double mail that needs to be delivered the next working day.

[Barnacle]

In response to the title thread - the Union's stance according to Martin Walsh is that the six day universal service obligation is no longer financially viable and they would be willing to support the delivery of letters 5 days a week. In the joint statement with Royal Mail earlier this year the CWU agreed to find a balance between improving quality of service and the overall financial position of the company. This states where a delivery route or part of the route is not covered on any given day then it must be covered the next working day to ensure any delay in delivery is for the maximum of ONE day. There are plans in place via resource meetings with the Union if walks start failing more than 2 days in a row.

So whilst RM keep putting the postage on letters up, they are also giving the public an even worse service and managers are often doing this deliberately by purposely not fully staffing the duties. These duties are not covered and the mail is planned to fail for that delivery on that day, which means that there will be double mail that needs to be delivered the next working day.

Well tomorrow mail on my walk will fail for the second day in a row because that is what I have been instructed to do - deliver Tracked, overtime not being paid so clearing is not an option. These have been our instructions for four weeks now therefore, in conjunction with MCs hanging onto mail for a week in some instances, mail can be 10 days old by the time it is finally delivered.

[tramssirhc]

The CWU has failed to tell members what has been agreed with OFCOM. The performance targets have been lowered. Ask your rep why the union remains silent about this and the affect it is having on members lives.

[SpacePhoenix]

Well tomorrow mail on my walk will fail for the second day in a row because that is what I have been instructed to do - deliver Tracked, overtime not being paid so clearing is not an option.

Have you got that instruction in writing? If you haven't and the s**t hits the fan, you'll get the blame

[Barnacle]

Well tomorrow mail on my walk will fail for the second day in a row because that is what I have been instructed to do - deliver Tracked, overtime not being paid so clearing is not an option.

Have you got that instruction in writing? If you haven't and the s**t hits the fan, you'll get the blame

They never put it in writing. You can ask, but it never happens.

[chickenwittle]

Does anybody actually care anymore ? Had nearly 2 years of this nonsense, my focus is start and finish times .

[guardianangel]

In response to the title thread - the Union's stance according to Martin Walsh is that the six day universal service obligation is no longer financially viable and they would be willing to support the delivery of letters 5 days a week. In the joint statement with Royal Mail earlier this year the CWU agreed to find a balance between improving quality of service and the overall financial position of the company. This states where a delivery route or part of the route is not covered on any given day then it must be covered the next working day to ensure any delay in delivery is for the maximum of ONE day. There are plans in place via resource meetings with the Union if walks start failing more than 2 days in a row.

So whilst RM keep putting the postage on letters up, they are also giving the public an even worse service and managers are often doing this deliberately by purposely not fully staffing the duties. These duties are not covered and the mail is planned to fail for that delivery on that day, which means that there will be double mail that needs to be delivered the next working day.

Its already happening in our office on my walk people are only getting a delivery twice a week absolutely shocking how they are getting away with it as for Martin Walsh biggest fraud in the history of unionism.

[chickenwittle]

In response to the title thread - the Union's stance according to Martin Walsh is that the six day universal service obligation is no longer financially viable and they would be willing to support the delivery of letters 5 days a week. In the joint statement with Royal Mail earlier this year the CWU agreed to find a balance between improving quality of service and the overall financial position of the company. This states where a delivery route or part of the route is not covered on any given day then it must be covered the next working day to ensure any delay in delivery is for the maximum of ONE day. There are plans in place via resource meetings with the Union if walks start failing more than 2 days in a row.

So whilst RM keep putting the postage on letters up, they are also giving the public an even worse service and managers are often doing this deliberately by purposely not fully staffing the duties. These duties are not covered and the mail is planned to fail for that delivery on that day, which means that there will be double mail that needs to be delivered the next working day.

Its already happening in our office on my walk people are only getting a delivery twice a week absolutely shocking how they are getting away with it as for Martin Walsh biggest fraud in the history of unionism.

The union has no power over a private company, they are barely relevant in the workplace anymore.

[worktotime]

In response to the title thread - the Union's stance according to Martin Walsh is that the six day universal service obligation is no longer financially viable and they would be willing to support the delivery of letters 5 days a week. In the joint statement with Royal Mail earlier this year the CWU agreed to find a balance between improving quality of service and the overall financial position of the company. This states where a delivery route or part of the route is not covered on any given day then it must be covered the next working day to ensure any delay in delivery is for the maximum of ONE day. There are plans in place via resource meetings with the Union if walks start failing more than 2 days in a row.

So whilst RM keep putting the postage on letters up, they are also giving the public an even worse service and managers are often doing this deliberately by purposely not fully staffing the duties. These duties are not covered and the mail is planned to fail for that delivery on that day, which means that there will be double mail that needs to be delivered the next working day.

Its already happening in our office on my walk people are only getting a delivery twice a week absolutely shocking how they are getting away with it as for Martin Walsh biggest fraud in the history of unionism.

bring back Terry at least he had some fight in him and would never agreed to any of this shite which ward and walsh bent us all over for just to look after the cw who? , no wonder they have lost so many members .

[Hyrrokkin]

Forget Ofcom, they are not fit for purpose. Write to your MP and explain the situation.

That way your MP can make an appointment to goto Delivery Office around 10ish, find office clear & delivery guys/girls can bring it back at 2ish.
That or sling it in back of 600!
But completely agree with Ofcom, spineless in every sense.

Ofcom are fully complicit and are corrupt

[scotchy1962]

In response to the title thread - the Union's stance according to Martin Walsh is that the six day universal service obligation is no longer financially viable and they would be willing to support the delivery of letters 5 days a week. In the joint statement with Royal Mail earlier this year the CWU agreed to find a balance between improving quality of service and the overall financial position of the company. This states where a delivery route or part of the route is not covered on any given day then it must be covered the next working day to ensure any delay in delivery is for the maximum of ONE day. There are plans in place via resource meetings with the Union if walks start failing more than 2 days in a row.

So whilst RM keep putting the postage on letters up, they are also giving the public an even worse service and managers are often doing this deliberately by purposely not fully staffing the duties. These duties are not covered and the mail is planned to fail for that delivery on that day, which means that there will be double mail that needs to be delivered the next working day.

last i looked the CWU didn't own RM so any stance they have is just that "words".
You all miss the real point here, RM employ you to do as they bid, within reason, for x amount of hrs per day, spread over a number of days in any given week. How they decide to best use those hours is up to them.
I like a lot of you remember how we used to work and "wilful delay" is a thing of the past, they just don't give a feck, as quoted by a manager to me on me complaining about not being able to clear my frame for days.
So there we have it, RM have abandoned their obligation and the only solution is just to do as instructed or leave, which is happening in droves.
Modernisation at its finest.