dididw wrote:Have mass cut offs m8, they bwill only come for savings if you gimps keep coming in for free !!!!
You dont see a miner turning out coal in his own time.
I don't come in early but most of the other staff do (there are PT 20hr duties who come in before me just so that they get finished on time) I personally am able to do my job without having to come in early
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
I didn't vote either way, but the mail volumes through the machines is falling, no doubt about it.
Where a couple of years ago the automation was running at full capacity from Monday 1pm to Saturday 5pm, now there are days mid-week where only half the machines are even staffed.
The graphs of machine throughputs produced daily, weekly and monthly all show a fall over the recent past, although the total automated percentage is rising steadily, especially inward walk-sort.
How or why this could apparently translate to more work at the DOs I have no idea, but the reduction of overall mail volumes is very real.
In the DO's we seem to be sorting more & more rubbish that can't go through the machines ie stuff wrapped in plastic, mags with no wrapping, oversized/odd shaped advertising to name a few.
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
The volume of mail is also on a vastly different scale to profit margins now so has fallen in real terms. At the moment we're delivering about 75% of what we were. Whether we perceive volume as up matters not. Its the same in the US and Europe and why so many are cutting costs - and jobs. Theres certainly an increase in parcels and packets but thats why the competition target that market. If you take out junk mail and bills (and more and more are opting for paperless billing), you won't find much to deliver. So yes, volume is down and going down every year. You can't calcuate RM's profits on weight - that no longer applies.
dididw wrote:Have mass cut offs m8, they bwill only come for savings if you gimps keep coming in for free !!!!
You dont see a miner turning out coal in his own time.
These days you dont see a miner full stop due to that twat thatcher.
Tman wrote:I didn't vote either way, but the mail volumes through the machines is falling, no doubt about it.
Where a couple of years ago the automation was running at full capacity from Monday 1pm to Saturday 5pm, now there are days mid-week where only half the machines are even staffed.
The graphs of machine throughputs produced daily, weekly and monthly all show a fall over the recent past, although the total automated percentage is rising steadily, especially inward walk-sort.
How or why this could apparently translate to more work at the DOs I have no idea, but the reduction of overall mail volumes is very real.
The only possible answer is some mail is not being recorded or put through any machinery but the picture in DO's is very different, we are REALLY seeing more mail, there is no sign whatsoever in DO's that mail volumes are falling and I'm not just saying this, this is a fact. DO's must be manually sorting mail that the MC's should be doing resulting in less mail for MC's.
Like I say, you can't calcuate RM's profits on weight - that no longer applies. Look at how much is handled by others now, and every week another authority switches and every time they do thats yet another dent. Mail volume isn't on the same graph as profit now. You could (depending on what changes happen) be delivering twice as much for half as much money so the weight in sacks is irrelevant. The volume of mail that Royal Mail itself handles HAS gone down - thats just a fact. But people confuse mail volume with what they carry - thats not how it is worked out.
Night Tonic wrote:Like I say, you can't calcuate RM's profits on weight - that no longer applies. Look at how much is handled by others now, and every week another authority switches and every time they do thats yet another dent. Mail volume isn't on the same graph as profit now. You could (depending on what changes happen) be delivering twice as much for half as much money so the weight in sacks is irrelevant. The volume of mail that Royal Mail itself handles HAS gone down - thats just a fact. But people confuse mail volume with what they carry - thats not how it is worked out.
No I don't agree with this. In delivery I've seen addresses have 1 or 2 letters a day increased to 5 to 10 letters a day - this is an indication that mail volume has increased. What goes through the sorting process at a MC is not always equal to what a DO handles.
Night Tonic wrote:Like I say, you can't calcuate RM's profits on weight - that no longer applies. Look at how much is handled by others now, and every week another authority switches and every time they do thats yet another dent. Mail volume isn't on the same graph as profit now. You could (depending on what changes happen) be delivering twice as much for half as much money so the weight in sacks is irrelevant. The volume of mail that Royal Mail itself handles HAS gone down - thats just a fact. But people confuse mail volume with what they carry - thats not how it is worked out.
No I don't agree with this. In delivery I've seen addresses have 1 or 2 letters a day increased to 5 to 10 letters a day - this is an indication that mail volume has increased. What goes through the sorting process at a MC is not always equal to what a DO handles.
Plus there are the houses that you used to go to once or twice a week that you now go to everyday.
I'm sure Night Tonic doesn't work on deliveries otherwise he'd know that we deliver more and more everyday (a 25% increase in my office from SDD)
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
Night Tonic wrote:Like I say, you can't calcuate RM's profits on weight - that no longer applies. Look at how much is handled by others now, and every week another authority switches and every time they do thats yet another dent. Mail volume isn't on the same graph as profit now. You could (depending on what changes happen) be delivering twice as much for half as much money so the weight in sacks is irrelevant. The volume of mail that Royal Mail itself handles HAS gone down - thats just a fact. But people confuse mail volume with what they carry - thats not how it is worked out.
No I don't agree with this. In delivery I've seen addresses have 1 or 2 letters a day increased to 5 to 10 letters a day - this is an indication that mail volume has increased. What goes through the sorting process at a MC is not always equal to what a DO handles.
And HOW much is all done by RM? This is the point, the volume of mail wholly in Royal Mail's hands has fallen. In some Euro countries more than one operator delivers so the drop is more obvious but you're delivering not just RM mail but others too which gives a false impression of ether static or rising mail volume. It wouldn't matter if you delivered ten times as much mail, we are losing the work to these other operators. Mail volume is based on what RM do in business, not what you carry.
What I'm saying is that you have to look beyond whats being delivered (and yes I'm on deliveries and damned steep in places) and think outside the box. Hellmail has an article today from Postcomm that talks about how out of date Royal Mail is. My guess is the new regulations coming will make a bigger impact than anything we've seen so far. We will end up as final mile for everyone else if we don't kick ass. RM's media dept needs an overhaul in my view.
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