I cut off today for the first time ever.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » 24 Mar 2008, 20:45

eian687 wrote:
Phantom wrote:
eian687 wrote:easy for you to say
if the union is strong in your office
our rep has only been doing it for a short time
our previous rep in now a dom elsewhere so as a small office we have not as much clout
Its got nothing to do with the union. You've either got a pair or not.
yeah and our team talk our dom said that the view from above was if you don't like the way royal mail is going then leave

Tell your dom to shut his gob, I choose to work this way and if Royal Mail don't like it then tough s**t. I pick and choose when I want to work NOT Royal Mail.

speedfreak191a · Post by **speedfreak191a** » 26 Mar 2008, 12:48

i am a reserve and i cut off (one bag) on saturday at 12 o'clock while it was raining and even snowing at times. at work on tuesday i was treated like i had done something really out of order and i was apparently the only person in the office that cut off that day(which i knew was a lie as the guy next to me cut off with 3 bags left). in the year that i have been at royal mail as a casual and a reserve i have cut off about 5 times and each time i am treated like a criminal by the managers. it doesnt bother me too much but can anybody let me know the exact rules of cutting off so that i know what i can and cant do. thanks

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 26 Mar 2008, 14:33

speedfreak191a wrote:i am a reserve and i cut off (one bag) on saturday at 12 o'clock while it was raining and even snowing at times. at work on tuesday i was treated like i had done something really out of order and i was apparently the only person in the office that cut off that day(which i knew was a lie as the guy next to me cut off with 3 bags left). in the year that i have been at royal mail as a casual and a reserve i have cut off about 5 times and each time i am treated like a criminal by the managers. it doesnt bother me too much but can anybody let me know the exact rules of cutting off so that i know what i can and cant do. thanks

The actual rules for cutting off are different from office to office so you need to see your rep - sharp.

However, there is one golden rule Royal Mail cannot make you work overtime. All overtime is voluntary and if you don't want to work over you don't have too. It is then Managements problem to sort out as long as you follow local guidelines, and always, but always have a witness.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 26 Mar 2008, 14:36

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
speedfreak191a wrote:i am a reserve and i cut off (one bag) on saturday at 12 o'clock while it was raining and even snowing at times. at work on tuesday i was treated like i had done something really out of order and i was apparently the only person in the office that cut off that day(which i knew was a lie as the guy next to me cut off with 3 bags left). in the year that i have been at royal mail as a casual and a reserve i have cut off about 5 times and each time i am treated like a criminal by the managers. it doesnt bother me too much but can anybody let me know the exact rules of cutting off so that i know what i can and cant do. thanks
The actual rules for cutting off are different from office to office so you need to see your rep - sharp.

However, there is one golden rule Royal Mail cannot make you work overtime. All overtime is voluntary and if you don't want to work over you don't have too. It is then Managements problem to sort out as long as you follow local guidelines, and always, but always have a witness.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... hp?p=12609

This may help.

speedfreak191a · Post by **speedfreak191a** » 26 Mar 2008, 16:14

thanks for your help

kwf166 · Post by **kwf166** » 27 Mar 2008, 21:43

speedfreak191a wrote:i am a reserve and i cut off (one bag) on saturday at 12 o'clock while it was raining and even snowing at times. at work on tuesday i was treated like i had done something really out of order and i was apparently the only person in the office that cut off that day(which i knew was a lie as the guy next to me cut off with 3 bags left). in the year that i have been at royal mail as a casual and a reserve i have cut off about 5 times and each time i am treated like a criminal by the managers. it doesnt bother me too much but can anybody let me know the exact rules of cutting off so that i know what i can and cant do. thanks

I am a new postie, and I am on a temp contact and been at my office for over 5 weeks, but lately I have been cutting off, because I am getting out at silly times, like midday and I have about 8 or 9 bags to delivered up to 2pm, its impossible to do,or I could carry on till 7pm, unless you are a experience postie, but even some of the experience posties have been getting back late, or have been cutting off, but I know how you feel, when you do say you are cutting of, the managers can be really intimidating

so today I cut off and the one of the managers said, how long you been here? I thought what that got to do with it, it not just me, everyone is getting out late, it getting ridiculous, and I am not sure if I want to carry on in this job

Post by **baldrick** » 27 Mar 2008, 21:51

kwf166 wrote:
speedfreak191a wrote:i am a reserve and i cut off (one bag) on saturday at 12 o'clock while it was raining and even snowing at times. at work on tuesday i was treated like i had done something really out of order and i was apparently the only person in the office that cut off that day(which i knew was a lie as the guy next to me cut off with 3 bags left). in the year that i have been at royal mail as a casual and a reserve i have cut off about 5 times and each time i am treated like a criminal by the managers. it doesnt bother me too much but can anybody let me know the exact rules of cutting off so that i know what i can and cant do. thanks
I am a new postie, and I am on a temp contact and been at my office for over 5 weeks, but lately I have been cutting off, because I am getting out at silly times, like midday and I have about 8 or 9 bags to delivered up to 2pm, its impossible to do,or I could carry on till 7pm, unless you are a experience postie, but even some of the experience posties have been getting back late, or have been cutting off, but I know how you feel, when you do say you are cutting of, the managers can be really intimidating so today I cut off and the one of the managers said, how long you been here? I thought what that got to do with it, it not just me, everyone is getting out late, it getting ridiculous, and I am not sure if I want to carry on in this job

Hello and welcome kwf166

Sorry to hear you're finding it difficult but I don't think you're the only one.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 27 Mar 2008, 21:53

kwf166 wrote:
speedfreak191a wrote:i am a reserve and i cut off (one bag) on saturday at 12 o'clock while it was raining and even snowing at times. at work on tuesday i was treated like i had done something really out of order and i was apparently the only person in the office that cut off that day(which i knew was a lie as the guy next to me cut off with 3 bags left). in the year that i have been at royal mail as a casual and a reserve i have cut off about 5 times and each time i am treated like a criminal by the managers. it doesnt bother me too much but can anybody let me know the exact rules of cutting off so that i know what i can and cant do. thanks
I am a new postie, and I am on a temp contact and been at my office for over 5 weeks, but lately I have been cutting off, because I am getting out at silly times, like midday and I have about 8 or 9 bags to delivered up to 2pm, its impossible to do,or I could carry on till 7pm, unless you are a experience postie, but even some of the experience posties have been getting back late, or have been cutting off, but I know how you feel, when you do say you are cutting of, the managers can be really intimidating so today I cut off and the one of the managers said, how long you been here? I thought what that got to do with it, it not just me, everyone is getting out late, it getting ridiculous, and I am not sure if I want to carry on in this job

If you can get out then do and get into a job where at least you'll feel valued (stacking shelves in a supermarket would have better job satisfaction)

leiwolf · Post by **leiwolf** » 28 Mar 2008, 16:55

The can not make you work before your time or after your time. If your manager is trying to intiminate you, first of all join the union, then talk to the union, and also make a point in front of the manager to write down what been said. Above all be calm and collect, the worst they will do is tell you that they don't need you at the end of your trial period. However if this is the case and you feel that they are discriminating against you, for whatever reason then you can take it further. Don't take their abuse or bullying, without us they wouldn't have a job

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 28 Mar 2008, 17:41

leiwolf wrote:The can not make you work before your time or after your time. If your manager is trying to intiminate you, first of all join the union, then talk to the union, and also make a point in front of the manager to write down what been said. Above all be calm and collect, the worst they will do is tell you that they don't need you at the end of your trial period. However if this is the case and you feel that they are discriminating against you, for whatever reason then you can take it further. Don't take their abuse or bullying, without us they wouldn't have a job

Well said Leiwolf! That is a good point about getting them to write down what they just said! Where do we stand by asking such a demand though?? Would they view that we are intimadating them?? I will need points like this if they start on me when i go back to work.

leiwolf · Post by **leiwolf** » 28 Mar 2008, 17:55

Madeline
Your doing what anybody is entitled too hun. Your gathering evidence to cover your back and to stop them bullying

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 28 Mar 2008, 17:58

Yes , it would be evidence indeed. I have never heard any a request made for the manager to write down any demand. They just argue with us then the threaten with conduct code and then threaten to suspend without wages, and it has happened in my place. But yes , i will keep that in mind about write down that demand for me please Mr Manager! It may help them to keep of your back if you be difficult.

leiwolf · Post by **leiwolf** » 28 Mar 2008, 18:01

I Have done it myself, i have even told the dom would he mind telling that to my solicitor and would he be quoted on it

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 28 Mar 2008, 18:03

leiwolf wrote:I Have done it myself, i have even told the dom would he mind telling that to my solicitor and would he be quoted on it

Excellent! and do they bother you much now?

leiwolf · Post by **leiwolf** » 28 Mar 2008, 18:16

changed management since then. Thankfully the new bloke (even tho I have heard horror stories about him from other offices) been quite sorted with me. He let me get on with my job and that all i ever asked in a manager. Bear in mind I am also dyspraxic and he was the first manager that ever5 asked is the anything he could do so I be comfy in my job, so that did please me