LTB 017/24 - BRT&G Agreement - RM/CWU Joint Statement - Section 2.5 (Improving Quality of Service) and RM/CWU Joint Communication on Seasonal Variation

[A2B]

I have a feeling both union reps and DOMs are in for a rough time tomorrow

[guardianangel]

Good point about meal relief, the 10min earlier finish is funded by 10min lees meal relief

And this starts next week?

Next year by the looks of it. We are still owed 28 hours of time during the summer but in the future the earlier starts will only be for 5 weeks and not 14.

It does seem all of Thompsons stupid ideas are slowly being unpicked.

Yes i dont understand when they say we will be owing them hours,it all seems a bit dodgey to me and we need proper clarification from our useless union, im sure we are on the end of some sort of Horizon f--k up or is it royal mail purposely screwing us over on a system that is doomed to failure.

[HTPostman]

Also says hours owed "should" show on PSP by end of March 2024, what if you want to use them instead of carrying them over?

Exactly. We have a legal right to use our annual leave - it is purely our choice if we wish to carry it over. We cannot be forced to carry annual leave over, RM can tell us when to take AL what they can’t do is say there’s no opportunity to take it so we’ll have to carry it over.

At some point in the near future I hope a set of solicitors (independent from the union) see what’s going on, both with annual leave and average holiday pay and we have mass claims. It is not right that people are missing out on holiday pay because of the ridiculous hoops you have to jump through agreed by our woeful union. Likewise it’s disgraceful when you read reports of people being forced to carry over AL in excess of 100 hours.

[adamanti]

Think this all about Xmas 24. 5 week's of 44 hour's, as they always wanted. Reducing the Xmas O/T bill is a major thing for RM. Definitely going to be a marathon 5 week's.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Think this all about Xmas 24. 5 week's of 44 hour's, as they always wanted. Reducing the Xmas O/T bill is a major thing for RM. Definitely going to be a marathon 5 week's.

44 hours?

[ted_e_bear]

Think this all about Xmas 24. 5 week's of 44 hour's, as they always wanted. Reducing the Xmas O/T bill is a major thing for RM. Definitely going to be a marathon 5 week's.

44 hours?

That's what I thought, do you think they'll try something like claim they helped us by reducing the period to only 5 weeks but go on to say as it's our busiest period the variation will have to be greater.

[A2B]

Did any office get offically told that they would be on 35hrs from the 22/1 till 25/2?

Union rep and DOM had no info at end of shift today

[Clappedoutpostie]

Did any office get offically told that they would be on 35hrs from the 22/1 till 25/2?

Union rep and DOM had no info at end of shift today

Yes, the joint statement was read out and also stuck on the noticeboard.

[A2B]

Thanks

[qwerty2]

I've read the bit about reduced hours a few times and don't get it. It's not written well at all. No mention of those that are not full time either.

It's mentioned in the full document that PT staff start 10 mins later.

You mean the next 5 weeks?
We don’t start 10 mins later
We start at the same time and finish 10 mins early!!!!

[LouBarlow]

I’ve never been more confused about what time I start work. It is beyond ridiculous now.

[SMS1969]

We were told today. Ft’s 14 mins later in and finish 10 mins early. Pt’s start at same time as now but finish 10 mins early. For 5 weeks from Monday. Cue more cutting off from many.

[kazardaimenu]

What a joke part time and ft staff have the same start time where we are. Managers won’t be able to make sense of the docket sheet or when people are meant to be starting and finishing.

[TopperGas]

What a joke part time and ft staff have the same start time where we are. Managers won’t be able to make sense of the docket sheet or when people are meant to be starting and finishing.

[TopperGas]

Didn't the union suggest a couple of weeks ago "hundreds of offices" would be starting 15 mins later, which seemed odd at the time, now every office is starting 14 mins later, is this some ploy by RM/CWU to test how starting 15 mins later will work in practice, before officially rolling it in April?