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How many days will USO be in future

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LouBarlow
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

Post by LouBarlow »

I’d be amazed if anything changes before the election either way. The tories won’t want to be seen dismantling the service before as Royal Mail is a company loved by their base voters.
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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The RM board clearly believe a reduced USO is the way forward. Think Ricky Macaulay said something about delivering letters 3 times a week. Getting rid of Saturday letter deliveries is a step towards that but anyone thinking that there won't be thousands of job losses as a result of this are very much mistaken.

RM want to reduce the workforce and sell off delivery offices.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
LouBarlow
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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I’m not as convinced as you that RM want to completely remove letters from the pipeline to such a degree. There is still money to be made by delivering them. I concur that they want to build up enough letters to make delivering them more profitable by sending us out less, but while parcels are so lucrative, they are going to need as many staff as possible to get them in customers hands as fast as possible.

That is where I see them going in the future. Trying to make same day delivery of parcels a possibility. If they aren’t looking in that direction, they should be, and for that, they need ground floor staff.
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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postslippete wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 14:24
The RM board clearly believe a reduced USO is the way forward. Think Ricky Macaulay said something about delivering letters 3 times a week. Getting rid of Saturday letter deliveries is a step towards that but anyone thinking that there won't be thousands of job losses as a result of this are very much mistaken.

RM want to reduce the workforce and sell off delivery offices.
3 days a week is exactly what many are doing now flipping their frames everyday. Thats with a hardworking pair clearing parcels on both walks and mail on one of them

3 days a week mail is now normality
enskied
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

Post by enskied »

Another 5 gone from our office in the last two weeks. No chance of a 3 day USO. Simply tracked, that's it.
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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It may happen after election due to red tape but do you honestly think anyone politically cares whether it's 5 or 6 days on letters any more😂 3 maybe a political wave worth delaying, but 5.. really?!
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

Post by enzio1272 »

I think it’s a given we will be Monday to Friday for letter but not Monday to Friday working. But once the uso goes down to five days probably in another five years it will be three days a week as RM will be saying it’s not economical to run it five days a week.
But as others have said the job loss will be high just hope there is EVR for those wanting it my guess is the demand would be quite high on delivery’s.
But then who actually knows we could be renationalised and then who knows what would happen going forward
LouBarlow
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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cornstar18 wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 18:37
It may happen after election due to red tape but do you honestly think anyone politically cares whether it's 5 or 6 days on letters any more😂 3 maybe a political wave worth delaying, but 5.. really?!
The tories definitely will as a vast majority who vote for them are the perfect demographic for actually caring about receiving letters every day. They (rightly) see RM as a national treasure that shouldn’t be carved up or changed.
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

Post by cornstar18 »

Yeah, you're right. It should be saved to any extent it can. Very easy to forget that when we're trying to make some money for the shareholders.
Sad truth is though, no one will care when it's actually gone or changed, itll just be fondly remembered like anything. Change...
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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qwerty2 wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 07:54
guardianangel wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 05:46
qwerty2 wrote:
01 Jan 2024, 22:58
guardianangel wrote:
01 Jan 2024, 22:01
I believe they will go for a delivery every other day so only 3 days just like Australia have just done,it just makes sense .
Australia is completely different to the UK sparsley populated etc
Who cares it will happen ,because we are so closely connected its even more of a reason,internet is king and it isn't going away.
Don’t moan when you lose your job then
I hope too , only a few years to go and nothing would make me more happier than to get made redundant now,i put in for it last time but we were so short staffed no one went ,fingers crossed it comes again a 3 day uso would be a dream for me.
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

Post by k979aaa »

Whatever they can get away with 1 postman/woman doing 7 walks a week and lapse and season variation without sick pay and any holidays, With a broom up their arse so they clean the office at the sametime!
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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cornstar18 wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 19:59
Yeah, you're right. It should be saved to any extent it can. Very easy to forget that when we're trying to make some money for the shareholders.
Sad truth is though, no one will care when it's actually gone or changed, itll just be fondly remembered like anything. Change...

People live everywhere. Not just in Towns and Cities.
Go on holiday to Rural UK, and the islands around Great Britain. The only delivery van you will see is a Royal Mail one. The people there really do care about the Universal service.
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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sweepster70 wrote:
07 Jan 2024, 17:53
People live everywhere. Not just in Towns and Cities.
Go on holiday to Rural UK, and the islands around Great Britain. The only delivery van you will see is a Royal Mail one. The people there really do care about the Universal service.
You're describing something beyond the world of money. Country, community, the pide of providing a national service... loss-making! The old GPO symbols haunt us - the telephone box, the pillar box - beloved at home and abroad, progressively flogged off to temporarily flatten the decline post-Suez. Ever greater efficiency in the context of catabolic collapse translates to destruction. This country and its postal service, if you believe RM, will be restored to greatness by having more infrequent deliveries than Norway. They'll issue us with bugles again so people know their once-a-week delivery is commencing.
The machine stops.
Rommagic
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

Post by Rommagic »

If halve the delivery staff in on Saturdays parcels and specials no letters.How many jobs lost would that be?.
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Re: How many days will USO be in future

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Rommagic wrote:
08 Jan 2024, 11:51
If halve the delivery staff in on Saturdays parcels and specials no letters.How many jobs lost would that be?.
If they had the other half doing Sundays on a rota that would reduce any job loses