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How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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mwalker88
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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Basildon Bond wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 18:30
Mr Rush wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 17:28

This is why I asked if anyone had the documents for RM2000 ...
I found this...

https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... ent-1..pdf


RM2000-Preparation-Guide-v1-4-Attachment-1..pdf
It says "fit labels in the correct order top left to bottom right."
I have never seen a frame set up that way, the more you know. Thanks for posting Basildon :thumbup
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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mwalker88 wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 18:42
It says "fit labels in the correct order top left to bottom right."
I have never seen a frame set up that way...
Nor I. It also says...
The label holders can be set at different viewing angles according to their position on the frame or to avoid reflections.
...and I've never known this/seen this either.
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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Basildon Bond wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 19:06
mwalker88 wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 18:42
It says "fit labels in the correct order top left to bottom right."
I have never seen a frame set up that way...
Nor I. It also says...
The label holders can be set at different viewing angles according to their position on the frame or to avoid reflections.
...and I've never known this/seen this either.
Can definitely confirm the latter, if the "road" labels are at 90 degrees to the floor, a good tug on each end of a "box2 label can pull it out to... I'd say 75 degrees from vertical (towards user). So lower rows would be pulled out, as you look down at them, upper rows you'd "push flat" so they're flat to the user. the "clicks" are fairly solid. The whole rm2000 system is actually pretty good tbh, so long as you understand it.

The top left to bottom right argument makes sense, but my experience it does runs bottom left to top right, and honestly, f**k knows why. /shrug
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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R5001 wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 19:41
Basildon Bond wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 19:06
mwalker88 wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 18:42
It says "fit labels in the correct order top left to bottom right."
I have never seen a frame set up that way...
Nor I. It also says...
The label holders can be set at different viewing angles according to their position on the frame or to avoid reflections.
...and I've never known this/seen this either.
Can definitely confirm the latter, if the "road" labels are at 90 degrees to the floor, a good tug on each end of a "box2 label can pull it out to... I'd say 75 degrees from vertical (towards user). So lower rows would be pulled out, as you look down at them, upper rows you'd "push flat" so they're flat to the user. the "clicks" are fairly solid. The whole rm2000 system is actually pretty good tbh, so long as you understand it.

The top left to bottom right argument makes sense, but my experience it does runs bottom left to top right, and honestly, f**k knows why. /shrug
I think it will be down to the way the CSS machines sequence the mail for that particular frame.

I’m guessing whomever is tasked with sending the frames sequencing data from the DO’s to the MC (or MPU) will be the one who decided where the frame will “start”
(i could be that individual posties were each tasked with writing down the sequencing order they wanted for their frame and thus some did it top left and some did it bottom left)

That is the likely explanation for the differences in sequencing starting points.

No doubt SpacePhoenix will know more……
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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2chorizon wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 21:43
R5001 wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 19:41
Basildon Bond wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 19:06
mwalker88 wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 18:42
It says "fit labels in the correct order top left to bottom right."
I have never seen a frame set up that way...
Nor I. It also says...
The label holders can be set at different viewing angles according to their position on the frame or to avoid reflections.
...and I've never known this/seen this either.
Can definitely confirm the latter, if the "road" labels are at 90 degrees to the floor, a good tug on each end of a "box2 label can pull it out to... I'd say 75 degrees from vertical (towards user). So lower rows would be pulled out, as you look down at them, upper rows you'd "push flat" so they're flat to the user. the "clicks" are fairly solid. The whole rm2000 system is actually pretty good tbh, so long as you understand it.

The top left to bottom right argument makes sense, but my experience it does runs bottom left to top right, and honestly, f**k knows why. /shrug
I think it will be down to the way the CSS machines sequence the mail for that particular frame.

I’m guessing whomever is tasked with sending the frames sequencing data from the DO’s to the MC (or MPU) will be the one who decided where the frame will “start”
(i could be that individual posties were each tasked with writing down the sequencing order they wanted for their frame and thus some did it top left and some did it bottom left)

That is the likely explanation for the differences in sequencing starting points.

No doubt SpacePhoenix will know more……
The sequencing sort plans are written based on what data has been inserted into Route Planner by the DO. I suspect that in some DOs the data won't have been updated for years and their sequencing doesn't the slightest bit match up with the frames
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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2chorizon wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 21:43

I think it will be down to the way the CSS machines sequence the mail for that particular frame.

I’m guessing whomever is tasked with sending the frames sequencing data from the DO’s to the MC (or MPU) will be the one who decided where the frame will “start”
(i could be that individual posties were each tasked with writing down the sequencing order they wanted for their frame and thus some did it top left and some did it bottom left)

That is the likely explanation for the differences in sequencing starting points.

No doubt SpacePhoenix will know more……
Sequencing wouldn't affect it, it's left to right in either case. I.E you could have your frame 30 boxes long on one row and it'd be the same.
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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R5001 wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 19:41
Can definitely confirm the latter, if the "road" labels are at 90 degrees to the floor, a good tug on each end of a "box2 label can pull it out to... I'd say 75 degrees from vertical (towards user).
I may give it a go this morning. I may just hear a snap - old brittle plastic! :Very Happy
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Re: How do you sort your packets into the frame?

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R5001 wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 04:51
2chorizon wrote:
10 Dec 2023, 21:43

I think it will be down to the way the CSS machines sequence the mail for that particular frame.

I’m guessing whomever is tasked with sending the frames sequencing data from the DO’s to the MC (or MPU) will be the one who decided where the frame will “start”
(i could be that individual posties were each tasked with writing down the sequencing order they wanted for their frame and thus some did it top left and some did it bottom left)

That is the likely explanation for the differences in sequencing starting points.

No doubt SpacePhoenix will know more……
Sequencing wouldn't affect it, it's left to right in either case. I.E you could have your frame 30 boxes long on one row and it'd be the same.
Yeah it wouldn't make a difference in that respect, I half expected someone to come on and say after our s**t revision my fitting starts on the 2nd row then the top followed by the bottom and the last row goes right to left. 😂😂