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RMCtv : Introducing MyPerformance in Delivery.

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Valentina@1
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Post by Valentina@1 »

I get Lou’s point about needing to retain staff,trying to employ and keep say 18-30 year olds on a weds-sun contract (£12.50 ph)obviously not gonna work,it’s like we are being set up to fail……sad times 🥲
This attack on us is disgusting,I feel so let down by company & CWU.
Valentina@1
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Everyday is a battle😡
Mickeybrowneyes
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LouBarlow wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 05:05
The majority of offices are short staffed. Anyone thinking they will use this data to force people out is deluded. They need to retain staff at this point.
Not every office is short staffed and it's not deluded.
I know people who have been fitted up for very weak wilful delay charges very recently. It may also sound cynical but if they can replace the legacy contracts with new flexible contracts it helps the company exploit the workforce and move staff from office to office if need be.
Cynical it may sound but not out the realms of possibility. Worries me that this tool will be used as a potential method for bullying staff into completing their duty even on unachievable days.
We will see.
Mickeybrowneyes
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
09 Oct 2023, 20:05
postslippete wrote:
09 Oct 2023, 16:58
Wait while there are meaningful conversations to be had between the manager and the postie in relation to it!!
Again the "meaningful conversation" would be driven by the already existing data produced by SISO, Trimble or PDA Actuals, not the My Doorstep App in itself which is only a platform to show that data to us.
I understand what you are saying but doesn't this new tool and 'meaningful conversations' take it a step further in how they can use the data to potentially coach and conduct.
I am under the impression there was more protections around the technology before this agreement.
Under the new agreement this 'my performance' tool is clearly in the agreement.
I'm sure we will hear something from the union on this soon be give us some balance on the issue.
Is it not slightly naive to believe it is just a tool for posties to access their data and compare with their pals.
LouBarlow
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Post by LouBarlow »

Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 06:32
LouBarlow wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 05:05
The majority of offices are short staffed. Anyone thinking they will use this data to force people out is deluded. They need to retain staff at this point.
Not every office is short staffed and it's not deluded.
I know people who have been fitted up for very weak wilful delay charges very recently. It may also sound cynical but if they can replace the legacy contracts with new flexible contracts it helps the company exploit the workforce and move staff from office to office if need be.
Cynical it may sound but not out the realms of possibility. Worries me that this tool will be used as a potential method for bullying staff into completing their duty even on unachievable days.
We will see.
People don’t want these new flexible contracts though. They don’t want the reduced terms new starters get, and if the rumours are correct, they don’t want to be working potentially every Saturday and Sunday in the near future.

We need to start understanding we have some power in this workplace and stand up for ourselves.
Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

It's very doubtful even Royal Mail are stupid enough to try to implement a business wide purge on experienced legacy staff in the run up to Christmas while already suffering a recruitment and retention crisis and facing increased QofS scrutiny and in the full knowledge that the network changes and later start times proposed for early next year could make the present staffing problems look like a picnic.

We're probably safe for the next twelve months which unfortunately in today's employment model counts as a secure job.

Obviously rogue managers will still do what rogue managers do but that's where your rep is supposed to wake up...
Only dead fish follow the current
Spartacus
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Post by Spartacus »

LouBarlow wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 17:57
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 06:32
LouBarlow wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 05:05
The majority of offices are short staffed. Anyone thinking they will use this data to force people out is deluded. They need to retain staff at this point.
People don’t want these new flexible contracts though. They don’t want the reduced terms new starters get, and if the rumours are correct, they don’t want to be working potentially every Saturday and Sunday in the near future.

We need to start understanding we have some power in this workplace and stand up for ourselves.

The death of irony.

One of the boards major "Vote Yes" men advocating workers standing up for themselves.

Beyond parody.
Delivery

Resistance is fertile
Valentina@1
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My thoughts exactly 🤯
Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Spartacus wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:30
The death of irony.

One of the boards major "Vote Yes" men advocating workers standing up for themselves.

Beyond parody.
The real irony is most of the no voters on here didn't stand up for themselves or their colleagues when Royal Mail were implementing unagreed revisions in their offices.

The strength of the union is not CWU HQ or any agreement but how hard local offices are prepared to fight to get the best they can from any given situation.

Judging by the bleating and blaming on here that's not very hard, perhaps they should spend a bit less time as keyboard warriors and a bit more time actually standing up for themselves.
Only dead fish follow the current
postslippete
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:39

The real irony is most of the no voters on here didn't stand up for themselves or their colleagues when Royal Mail were implementing unagreed revisions in their offices.

The strength of the union is not CWU HQ or any agreement but how hard local offices are prepared to fight to get the best they can from any given situation.

Judging by the bleating and blaming on here that's not very hard, perhaps they should spend a bit less time as keyboard warriors and a bit more time actually standing up for themselves.


Many local offices actually filed a rule 13 strike vote but the CWU postal executive repeatedly blocked it!! We were promised by Dave Ward who postponed the vote on the deal that RM would review the revisions but they just said anything to try and get the deal over the line. Obviously I understand why - but now our office is a complete shambles with managers telling posties to prioritise the Tracked items over days worth of mail.

The phrase "Lions led by donkeys" springs to mind.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Mr Rush
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Post by Mr Rush »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:39
The strength of the union is not CWU HQ or any agreement but how hard local offices are prepared to fight to get the best they can from any given situation.
Dave Ward's generous remuneration (amongst others) would certainly seem to generate the impression to most of the membership that the heavy lifting very well should be done by CWU HQ. Not that I'm disagreeing with your statement about the idealised nature of the union.
The machine stops.
Mickeybrowneyes
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Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:29
It's very doubtful even Royal Mail are stupid enough to try to implement a business wide purge on experienced legacy staff in the run up to Christmas while already suffering a recruitment and retention crisis and facing increased QofS scrutiny and in the full knowledge that the network changes and later start times proposed for early next year could make the present staffing problems look like a picnic.

We're probably safe for the next twelve months which unfortunately in today's employment model counts as a secure job.

Obviously rogue managers will still do what rogue managers do but that's where your rep is supposed to wake up...
Yeah you are right and I agree with most of what you say but it would be good to get some more clarity on exactly what they are testing and whether regular conversations will lead to potential conduct down the line.

The wording around this is quite vague which will make it harder for the rep to defend if it's not really clear what can be used and what can't be used.
I can see some flashpoints with this in the not too distant future.
LouBarlow
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Post by LouBarlow »

Spartacus wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:30
LouBarlow wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 17:57
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 06:32
LouBarlow wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 05:05
The majority of offices are short staffed. Anyone thinking they will use this data to force people out is deluded. They need to retain staff at this point.
People don’t want these new flexible contracts though. They don’t want the reduced terms new starters get, and if the rumours are correct, they don’t want to be working potentially every Saturday and Sunday in the near future.

We need to start understanding we have some power in this workplace and stand up for ourselves.



The death of irony.

One of the boards major "Vote Yes" men advocating workers standing up for themselves.

Beyond parody.
No irony detected. I stood up for myself on the picket line and by voting for a deal that safeguarded your job, earned you a pay rise and a lump sum.

You are welcome.
BigSacks
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Post by BigSacks »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:39
Spartacus wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:30
The death of irony.

One of the boards major "Vote Yes" men advocating workers standing up for themselves.

Beyond parody.
The real irony is most of the no voters on here didn't stand up for themselves or their colleagues when Royal Mail were implementing unagreed revisions in their offices.

The strength of the union is not CWU HQ or any agreement but how hard local offices are prepared to fight to get the best they can from any given situation.

Judging by the bleating and blaming on here that's not very hard, perhaps they should spend a bit less time as keyboard warriors and a bit more time actually standing up for themselves.
I’d be willing to bet less than 5% have ever even put themselves forward as rep.

Those are often the ones shouting the loudest.
When confronted?

“Me as Union rep? Pah! Why the bloody hell would I want to do that?!”
guardianangel
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Post by guardianangel »

BigSacks wrote:
12 Oct 2023, 17:55
Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:39
Spartacus wrote:
11 Oct 2023, 18:30
The death of irony.

One of the boards major "Vote Yes" men advocating workers standing up for themselves.

Beyond parody.
The real irony is most of the no voters on here didn't stand up for themselves or their colleagues when Royal Mail were implementing unagreed revisions in their offices.

The strength of the union is not CWU HQ or any agreement but how hard local offices are prepared to fight to get the best they can from any given situation.

Judging by the bleating and blaming on here that's not very hard, perhaps they should spend a bit less time as keyboard warriors and a bit more time actually standing up for themselves.
I’d be willing to bet less than 5% have ever even put themselves forward as rep.

Those are often the ones shouting the loudest.
When confronted?

“Me as Union rep? Pah! Why the bloody hell would I want to do that?!”
And there we have it (individual offices ) another union failure on an agreement years ago local level their favourite word,basically screwing all posties in the country over,all the guys at the top just want to sit on their ass and take the money,pretty much the same for most organisations these days.