700 redundancies mail centres

[SpacePhoenix]

Another realignment and resign coming up in MCs?

[NWpostie]

I don't think it will stop there, other MCs will face reductions if there is any duplication or excess workforce, problem is the current VR max payout is 52 weeks when previously it was 104 weeks, it's a big hit if you decide to apply for it, if I was working in an MC I would need further financial inducement before I would consider taking VR, 104 will be enough give breathing space to cover living expenses and an opportunity to start again, 52 weeks won't even cover a year of living cost once you have cleared your debts.

[Surfpostie]

Hmm redeployment mentioned! Sounds like the unlucky one’s will need their walking shoes,when they go to deliveries. Good luck you’ll notice a difference between M/C’s & D/O’s

[2chorizon]

Hmm redeployment mentioned! Sounds like the unlucky one’s will need their walking shoes,when they go to deliveries. Good luck you’ll notice a difference between M/C’s & D/O’s

Yeah, should be able to get a couple rounds of squash in after work.

[Jefferson Starfish]

I don't think it will stop there, other MCs will face reductions if there is any duplication or excess workforce, problem is the current VR max payout is 52 weeks when previously it was 104 weeks, it's a big hit if you decide to apply for it, if I was working in an MC I would need further financial inducement before I would consider taking VR, 104 will be enough give breathing space to cover living expenses and an opportunity to start again, 52 weeks won't even cover a year of living cost once you have cleared your debts.

I thought the current rate was 39 weeks?

[wandle]

I don't think it will stop there, other MCs will face reductions if there is any duplication or excess workforce, problem is the current VR max payout is 52 weeks when previously it was 104 weeks, it's a big hit if you decide to apply for it, if I was working in an MC I would need further financial inducement before I would consider taking VR, 104 will be enough give breathing space to cover living expenses and an opportunity to start again, 52 weeks won't even cover a year of living cost once you have cleared your debts.

I thought the current rate was 39 weeks?

It is.
Someone asked at our briefing whether the previous £6000 ‘sweetener’ would be offered this time.
‘No. It’s 39 weeks / 9 months’ was the reply

[NWpostie]

I don't think it will stop there, other MCs will face reductions if there is any duplication or excess workforce, problem is the current VR max payout is 52 weeks when previously it was 104 weeks, it's a big hit if you decide to apply for it, if I was working in an MC I would need further financial inducement before I would consider taking VR, 104 will be enough give breathing space to cover living expenses and an opportunity to start again, 52 weeks won't even cover a year of living cost once you have cleared your debts.

I thought the current rate was 39 weeks?

It is.
Someone asked at our briefing whether the previous £6000 ‘sweetener’ would be offered this time.
‘No. It’s 39 weeks / 9 months’ was the reply

It seems I was mistaken it's not 52 weeks, it's 39 that's even worse, if I was working in a MC and offered this I would turn it down flat, it wouldn't be enough to survive on while finding another job, they need to make a better offer.

[aiden01]

I don't think it will stop there, other MCs will face reductions if there is any duplication or excess workforce, problem is the current VR max payout is 52 weeks when previously it was 104 weeks, it's a big hit if you decide to apply for it, if I was working in an MC I would need further financial inducement before I would consider taking VR, 104 will be enough give breathing space to cover living expenses and an opportunity to start again, 52 weeks won't even cover a year of living cost once you have cleared your debts.

I thought the current rate was 39 weeks?

It is.
Someone asked at our briefing whether the previous £6000 ‘sweetener’ would be offered this time.
‘No. It’s 39 weeks / 9 months’ was the reply

It seems I was mistaken it's not 52 weeks, it's 39 that's even worse, if I was working in a MC and offered this I would turn it down flat, it wouldn't be enough to survive on while finding another job, they need to make a better offer.

Was oversubscribed in our mc last time an those that took it lost out on the '6 grand sweetner'.

[2chorizon]

This was leaked & posted on our WhatsApp group on Wednesday (20th), forcing management to arrange shift meetings on Thursday.
Given that the preference exercise is due to start on Monday 25th, I wonder when they planned to tell us this stuff if their hands hadn’t been forced ?
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Good work !

[SpacePhoenix]

Hmm redeployment mentioned! Sounds like the unlucky one’s will need their walking shoes,when they go to deliveries. Good luck you’ll notice a difference between M/C’s & D/O’s

They wouldn't want any of us in deliveries, they want people on the new contracts. Once they've got a big enough % of people in deliveries on the new contracts, I wouldn't put it past RM to force all the remaining people in deliveries onto the new contracts

[mwalker88]

Hmm redeployment mentioned! Sounds like the unlucky one’s will need their walking shoes,when they go to deliveries. Good luck you’ll notice a difference between M/C’s & D/O’s

They wouldn't want any of us in deliveries, they want people on the new contracts. Once they've got a big enough % of people in deliveries on the new contracts, I wouldn't put it past RM to force all the remaining people in deliveries onto the new contracts

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if RM forced all supernumeraries into the D.O's just to get rid of most of them.
Let's face it, how many M.C. staff are getting paid more than legacy contract D.O. staff? Probably most of them tbh, and a massive percentage of them are going to leave as soon as they realise how bad the walks are.

[2chorizon]

Hmm redeployment mentioned! Sounds like the unlucky one’s will need their walking shoes,when they go to deliveries. Good luck you’ll notice a difference between M/C’s & D/O’s

They wouldn't want any of us in deliveries, they want people on the new contracts. Once they've got a big enough % of people in deliveries on the new contracts, I wouldn't put it past RM to force all the remaining people in deliveries onto the new contracts

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if RM forced all supernumeraries into the D.O's just to get rid of most of them.
Let's face it, how many M.C. staff are getting paid more than legacy contract D.O. staff? Probably most of them tbh, and a massive percentage of them are going to leave as soon as they realise how bad the walks are.

The redundancy brief posted on the previous page says a reduction of 1300 full time equivalent posts in MC's, it states that 700 of these are the existing supernumeraries.

If you are a supernumerary then YOU WILL be shipping out of your MC very shortly, you can try all the "childcare" / "carer" / "taking your dog to the psychiatrist" / "tribunal" ruses you like,
your work coach at the Redeployment Centre will make sure any attempts to anchor in the MC will fail.
Special Measures can be accomodated on Deliveries too, they will make sure of it for a little while to get the suplus labour out of the MC's.

It is pleasing to know that the Redeployment pool is being run by outside contractors, who will have great experience in dealing with resistance.

This should have happened months ago but has been stalled by more useless "meetings" & now the situation has become critical.
No business can survive hanging onto a large amount of surplus labour, they made the decision to refuse picking a duty and now they need to move to where the work is.

[mwalker88]

Hmm redeployment mentioned! Sounds like the unlucky one’s will need their walking shoes,when they go to deliveries. Good luck you’ll notice a difference between M/C’s & D/O’s

They wouldn't want any of us in deliveries, they want people on the new contracts. Once they've got a big enough % of people in deliveries on the new contracts, I wouldn't put it past RM to force all the remaining people in deliveries onto the new contracts

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if RM forced all supernumeraries into the D.O's just to get rid of most of them.
Let's face it, how many M.C. staff are getting paid more than legacy contract D.O. staff? Probably most of them tbh, and a massive percentage of them are going to leave as soon as they realise how bad the walks are.

The redundancy brief posted on the previous page says a reduction of 1300 full time equivalent posts in MC's, it states that 700 of these are the existing supernumeraries.

If you are a supernumerary then YOU WILL be shipping out of your MC very shortly, you can try all the "childcare" / "carer" / "taking your dog to the psychiatrist" / "tribunal" ruses you like,
your work coach at the Redeployment Centre will make sure any attempts to anchor in the MC will fail.
Special Measures can be accomodated on Deliveries too, they will make sure of it for a little while to get the suplus labour out of the MC's.

It is pleasing to know that the Redeployment pool is being run by outside contractors, who will have great experience in dealing with resistance.

Like I said. The majority will leave the business. Welcome to Delivery

[2chorizon]

Hmm redeployment mentioned! Sounds like the unlucky one’s will need their walking shoes,when they go to deliveries. Good luck you’ll notice a difference between M/C’s & D/O’s

They wouldn't want any of us in deliveries, they want people on the new contracts. Once they've got a big enough % of people in deliveries on the new contracts, I wouldn't put it past RM to force all the remaining people in deliveries onto the new contracts

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if RM forced all supernumeraries into the D.O's just to get rid of most of them.
Let's face it, how many M.C. staff are getting paid more than legacy contract D.O. staff? Probably most of them tbh, and a massive percentage of them are going to leave as soon as they realise how bad the walks are.

The redundancy brief posted on the previous page says a reduction of 1300 full time equivalent posts in MC's, it states that 700 of these are the existing supernumeraries.

If you are a supernumerary then YOU WILL be shipping out of your MC very shortly, you can try all the "childcare" / "carer" / "taking your dog to the psychiatrist" / "tribunal" ruses you like,
your work coach at the Redeployment Centre will make sure any attempts to anchor in the MC will fail.
Special Measures can be accomodated on Deliveries too, they will make sure of it for a little while to get the suplus labour out of the MC's.

It is pleasing to know that the Redeployment pool is being run by outside contractors, who will have great experience in dealing with resistance.

Like I said. The majority will leave the business. Welcome to Delivery

It's not "that" bad is it?
An MC porter will walk around 14-20 miles per shift & never without a full york in their hands (we've monitored and recorded this, the average is 14 miles)
others will still walk a significant distance during a shift.

Weather and being exposed to the elements will certainly be an issue though! all those fasionable hairdoo's and perm's getting messed up!

[mwalker88]

It's not "that" bad is it?
An MC porter will walk around 14-20 miles per shift & never without a full york in their hands (we've monitored and recorded this, the average is 14 miles)
others will still walk a significant distance during a shift.

Weather and being exposed to the elements will certainly be an issue though! all those fasionable hairdoo's and perm's getting messed up!
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Haha, are you being serious?