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General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

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qwerty2
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

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CRIBMAD wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:43
WHOS HE ?? cannot even bring myself to listen to this useless prick any more - sold us down the river without a paddle !!!!!
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100% agree not listening to anything they say ;liar
thefox
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

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enskied wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 17:37
heraldmoth wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:49
enskied wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:27
heraldmoth wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:11
taurus88 wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 15:21
The problem with the decline in letters is that it doesn’t mean a decline in workload. We’ve all seen fewer letters come in, but the drop in call-rate has simply led to bigger walks. We’re probably now delivering to more houses but with fewer letters, while additionally the growth in packets has added to that. Going down to 5 days will just make the job harder, as your call-rate will increase on your walk that was added and added to as letters declined. Delivering 400 letters across 800 houses isn’t easier than delivering 400 letters across 400 houses.
It won’t make the job harder and there’s no commit to deliver. It will simply make sure there’s a minimum of 5 f days work being done because at the minute let’s face it there’s not 6 days of mail anywhere if you take away sick leave and staffing shortages, and for all the people hoping for a 4 day week I’d be surprised if Saturday parcel shifts are less than 10hrs
There isn't a staffing shortage. There is a refusal to recruit staff .
Same thing but while ppl still work for free why would you hire
Well I suppose it will all get sorted once Aiden is deployed on delivery .
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enskied
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by enskied »

dazzler123 wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 18:54
enskied wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 18:06
OFCOM are compliant with all this.
They rely on Royal Mail telling them the truth. Imagine that... despite what they must have observed during the Parliamentary committee .liars reporting to the lazy.

Enough pictures have been sent to them of wofully failing offices. However the look at what Royal Mail send them.
One of the main things i took was he admitted Ofcom are useless to us in this
They are.
I have an open case with OFCOM

After weeks of the same evidence being supplied to them He/She asked .
What do you expect me to do.
heraldmoth
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

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enskied wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 17:37
heraldmoth wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:49
enskied wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:27
heraldmoth wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:11
taurus88 wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 15:21
The problem with the decline in letters is that it doesn’t mean a decline in workload. We’ve all seen fewer letters come in, but the drop in call-rate has simply led to bigger walks. We’re probably now delivering to more houses but with fewer letters, while additionally the growth in packets has added to that. Going down to 5 days will just make the job harder, as your call-rate will increase on your walk that was added and added to as letters declined. Delivering 400 letters across 800 houses isn’t easier than delivering 400 letters across 400 houses.
It won’t make the job harder and there’s no commit to deliver. It will simply make sure there’s a minimum of 5 f days work being done because at the minute let’s face it there’s not 6 days of mail anywhere if you take away sick leave and staffing shortages, and for all the people hoping for a 4 day week I’d be surprised if Saturday parcel shifts are less than 10hrs
There isn't a staffing shortage. There is a refusal to recruit staff .
Same thing but while ppl still work for free why would you hire
Well I suppose it will all get sorted once Aiden is deployed on delivery .
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adamanti
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by adamanti »

Monday to Friday, yes bring it on. Maybe offer some of us older chaps 4 day week, I would snap there hand off. 5 day USO is inevitable, stop worrying about double mail and walk's that are too big. None of it matters to the management so...... just do a good days work and enjoy more weekend time.
pieoftheday
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by pieoftheday »

adamanti wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 19:36
Monday to Friday, yes bring it on. Maybe offer some of us older chaps 4 day week, I would snap there hand off. 5 day USO is inevitable, stop worrying about double mail and walk's that are too big. None of it matters to the management so...... just do a good days work and enjoy more weekend time.
I like a rotating day off and a long weekend. A 4 day week does appeal though, obviously I wouldnt want to lose much money :Very Happy
enskied
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by enskied »

heraldmoth wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 19:34
enskied wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 17:37
heraldmoth wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:49
enskied wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:27
heraldmoth wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:11
taurus88 wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 15:21
The problem with the decline in letters is that it doesn’t mean a decline in workload. We’ve all seen fewer letters come in, but the drop in call-rate has simply led to bigger walks. We’re probably now delivering to more houses but with fewer letters, while additionally the growth in packets has added to that. Going down to 5 days will just make the job harder, as your call-rate will increase on your walk that was added and added to as letters declined. Delivering 400 letters across 800 houses isn’t easier than delivering 400 letters across 400 houses.
It won’t make the job harder and there’s no commit to deliver. It will simply make sure there’s a minimum of 5 f days work being done because at the minute let’s face it there’s not 6 days of mail anywhere if you take away sick leave and staffing shortages, and for all the people hoping for a 4 day week I’d be surprised if Saturday parcel shifts are less than 10hrs
There isn't a staffing shortage. There is a refusal to recruit staff .
Same thing but while ppl still work for free why would you hire
Well I suppose it will all get sorted once Aiden is deployed on delivery .
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I know I sho
guardianangel
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by guardianangel »

adamanti wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 19:36
Monday to Friday, yes bring it on. Maybe offer some of us older chaps 4 day week, I would snap there hand off. 5 day USO is inevitable, stop worrying about double mail and walk's that are too big. None of it matters to the management so...... just do a good days work and enjoy more weekend time.
I'd 2nd that 4 even 3 day week.
guardianangel
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by guardianangel »

qwerty2 wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 19:04
CRIBMAD wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 16:43
WHOS HE ?? cannot even bring myself to listen to this useless prick any more - sold us down the river without a paddle !!!!!
:Applause :Applause :Applause :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup

100% agree not listening to anything they say ;liar
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
guardianangel
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by guardianangel »

They've nicked our holiday's,not in the agreement,get those ballots out,oh yeah thought not you and your 2 stooges have forever ruined the union,you will never get a ballot across the line again.
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by TopperGas »

guardianangel wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 20:22
They've nicked our holiday's,not in the agreement,get those ballots out,oh yeah thought not you and your 2 stooges have forever ruined the union,you will never get a ballot across the line again.
We must be the only UK employees who manage to lose hours (holidays) when working over 2 hours for free every week, if the CWU are involved in the talks in anyway they'll no doubt convince OFCOM that we only need to deliver post 4 days a week!!
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by portadown »

If there was no money in mail how are theses companies that put mail in to royalmail making money are royalmail just counting what they sell with stamp mail that they are counting as the post bag has not went down as much as sayed and wy have they not went and got contacts back that they have lossed
thefox
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by thefox »

guardianangel wrote:
11 Sep 2023, 20:22
They've nicked our holiday's,not in the agreement,get those ballots out,oh yeah thought not you and your 2 stooges have forever ruined the union,you will never get a ballot across the line again.
Even if they did get it over line i think a few would cross the picket line.no faith left in them anymore.
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

Post by 123456 »

I think they will allow a 5 day letter service.
Then be told " there you go,now you should turn a profit".
Problem being royal mail already barely delivers letters 5 days as it stands now.
So when asked why things haven't worked out regarding profit the argument will resurface.
The company are not being honest and the merry go round will continue..
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Re: General Secretary Dave Ward on the universal service obligation.

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RM lie surely not 😊